The art on the header seems AI? Will AI run the anrchoworld of the future?

  • Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    The complaints I see about AI is usually because of “the theft” and “the consent”. Anarchist thought usually is against the copyright and the intellectual property. This seems to be lost in all discussions. The problems are with capitalism.

    • AviAdi@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      I guess anarchist don’t believe you can prevent someone from polluting an area since you can’t control what people do? I guess I don’t know how I feel living downstream from someone who is free to throw their sewage in the river…

      • Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        Dramatic false equivalence?

        If you would keep to the topic on copyright or intellectual property that would be great. In a movement that believes private, intellectual, property is theft then the extension to using that for the benefit of others is not a problem.

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          3 months ago

          Well then I’m ok with that, although I live in Hollywood and know artist that rely on making their living via copyright and IP so I need to see how they would feel about it.

          • alapakala@quokk.au
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            3 months ago

            Copyright doesn’t compensate artists, fans do.
            Copyright allows the state to enforce rents on whatever the state arbitrates rents need to be due upon.

            It’s precisely the fact AI corporations have lobbied themselves off copyright infringement, that you’re seeing the exact reason copyright was dictated since its origin.

            Anarchists are against monopolies, esp. in press; therefore copyrights and intellectual properties by extension. This doesn’t mean we approve of the monopolies in press, but that your state invented the hypocrisy to oppress.

            We are against both, anti press ways, and corporate power, which the state ordains.
            both is good

  • PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    using AI for work, that’s ok, but AI art is cringe as fuck and it’s embarrassing how much this instance embraces and even promotes it

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      using AI for work, that’s ok, but AI art is cringe as fuck

      That’s a wacky, imaginary line in the sand though. Your boss must love you.

      • PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        Yes, using LLMs for mechanical work like sorting data and doing calculations vs using LLMs to replace your creativity and how you abstract and express your feelings are the same thing. Your SO must love you.

  • Walters, Fern@bookwyr.me
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    3 months ago

    lemmy.dbzer0.com doesn’t represent anarchism. Members may declare themselves anarchists, and use their own AI, but that doesn’t represent the anarchist umbrella against AI; which is by in large the majority majority.

    Also, anarchism isn’t a movement, it’s a lifestyle.

    • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.net
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      3 months ago

      Also, anarchism isn’t a movement, it’s a lifestyle.

      You are linking to an anarchist source, so I assume that statement wasnt made in bad faith. Calling anarchism a lifestyle is usually done by people that despise anarchism, because they believe its just aesthetics and doing punk stuff. If you would call it a way of life, I wouldnt have the same objections.

      • Walters, Fern@bookwyr.me
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        3 months ago

        Do you call authoritarianism a way of life or a lifestyle?

        Anarchism proclaims choice a maxim. Free to live under no hierarchies, free to choose to style one’s life. Others need nonsubscribe. In authoritarian dictī, there are no choice than accept the oppressors’ demands. The way of life is crippled, the style subservient.

        What other ways of living do you object?