





Imagine telling a Muslim person after 9/11 or a visible trans person that their real enemy are only the “bourgeoisie”, just this class of faceless entities they’ve never met and not the everyday proles that constantly treat them like shit
And that the proles are actually only massive assholes to them because they’re “misguided” by “the ruling class”
No wonder socialist groups are all filled with middle-upper middle class white coastal elites
I mean, yes, but also every POC socialist leader immediately gets a visit from the CIA
I’d argue the majority of Black/POC Americans are latent socialists
While white Americans take up the lions share of explicit socialists
The reasons are purely demographic and the result of state anti-communtist suppression disproportionately targeting explicit POC socialists, and there are simply more white people, so the explicit socialists amongst them tend to make up the majority of any socialist grouping
Which triggers the social reality of de facto self-segregation (85% of white Americans do not associate in anyway, shape or form with non-white peoples) a white person joins an org, 85% of their friends are white and they join etcetera, that cascades across demographic cohorts and since they’re a majority most spaces get hit with the white ray gun
Then there’s the added danger of being an explicit POC socialist, white socialists may receive a “race traitor” asterisk on their whiteness card and be vulnerable to state repression
But POC socialists are far more likely to end up in the back of a trunk with bullet holes in it or in prison over trumped up charges, there’s simply no room for error
Demographics, segregation and self preservation are powerful barriers

edited title to specify American socialists
For the US, Settlers by J Sakai touches on the topic, that the settler-colonial contradiction hasn’t been really resolved by the socialist movement.
I’m confused about Spain here, whoever made this map probably thinks the Socialist Party is actually socialist.
it includes coalitions. the PCE is indeed in a coalition government with PSOE
Oh yeah, I thought Sumar was a party, but it’s an electoral alliance that includes the PCE.
yuppp (its a whole mess)
I’m confused by your point
POC and marginalized groups, as much as they are distinct, usually are mostly working class people on average, and while I can’t speak for marginalized groups like those with disabilities, of lower caste, or of gender identities, I can say for sure EM POC (Global South) have usually been ones at the forefront of the international revolutionary socialist movement.
edited title to specify American socialists
Are you that trans social media engineer still trying to process your shame of outgrowing socialism when you started making $100k through chapo.chat posts about coastal elites?
I was making 100k+ for over 8 years now, and I was the most radicalized and doing the most activism when I was at my peak wealth before I lost most of it in a gambling addiction
I’m sorry but my enemies are both the ruling and the working class. And my best bet for survival and a good life is becoming a capitalist rather than any solidarity with the working class that at large treat me as lesser than just because of my identity
I didn’t “outgrow” socialism, I just smartened up to where my class interests truly lie (shared identity with trans people and capital)
I’m sorry but my enemies are both the ruling and the working class.
That just makes you petty bourgeois lmao
And pretty cringe to continue using a website after requesting your previous account to be banned ngl
you say your enemy is the ruling class, you join the ruling class and accept their ideology? that doesnt seem like they are your enemy. and why is your solidarity with the working class conditional?
and why is your solidarity with the working class conditional?
Because class solidarity is a matter of survival and personal interests, not ethics, morals, or empathy
Marx spoke of this
To me solidarity is a matter of liberation, not personal interest.
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Liberation is also in your personal interest though, is it not?
in a very long term sense, liberation (ergo communism) is beneficial to everyone. but in the short term i dont really benefit being beat up by the police for being at a palestine protest
Hope you made a lot of alts then if you’re gonna continue to motte and bailey “DAE socialists are latte sipping trust fundies?”
Okay I know I made a lot of shitposts in the past but this one is alright imo. I mean I know it’s just Settlers in a nutshell but obviously not everybody has read Settlers or wants to