(Preferably with sources)

I’ve overcorrected from “China bad” to “China is infallible.” I know that’s incorrect, but it’s hard to decipher US propaganda from actual issues.

In discussions in the past, providing a positive counterpoint is plenty, but since more folks are already realizing the narrative about China is incorrect I would like to have more nuanced discussions where I can present both praise and criticism. I think it’s also important that we don’t end up in a USSR situation where Communism is synonymous with the actions of a single country.

  • I know they’re trading with the genocidal zionist entity. Even if their policy is to be apolitical, that’s very bad.
  • I’m unsure of what the internal restrictions look like in general
  • I saw that the “social credit score” was a small experiment in one province that got way overblown
  • Great firewall…? I know it’s a thing, iiuc you can use a VPN to get around it, but only ones provided by the state (which could easily backdoor them)?
  • Limitations on speech? Do people get disappeared?
  • Are they monitoring everyone? “You can’t monitor 1.5 billion people” idk computers are pretty fast. Also you can def use big data to find the people you do need to monitor more closely
  • Dengism? Reintroducing capitalism looks like a retreat at face value and has the obvious problems of capitalism, but I saw someone on here talking about it being a genius way of deindustrializing capitalist nations while building China’s own capacity

Are there others? I’m happy if you also include justification for their policies, but I do want to know where you genuinely think they’re making mistakes.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    15 days ago

    Its good people are buying EVs. That doesn’t change the fact that ICE bikes are prohibited in a way ICE cars aren’t and this negetively impacts traffic. I would be bothered less if cars faced similar restrictions.

    I am aware of the situation with electric scooters and the situation with public toilets, I spent like 8 of the last 24 months in China.

    • KuroXppi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      15 days ago

      Yeah fair enough, in the short term I guess it’s a double standard and I can see how that increases pollution and congestion, electric scooters are filling a gap that ice bikes are being prohibited from and petroleum vehicles are being removed from the road at a faster rate than any other country, so I’m confident that it’s improving much more rapidly than where I live, which is a dumping ground for american style pickup trucks like the ford raptor and the Chevy idontknowcarmodelnames

      For the ‘toilet situation’, if both you and I are aware of how it’s improving and targeted, is that on your list of grievances as not enough is being done? ‘the toilet situation’ is a bit of a vague complaint, so I’m not really sure what grievance you’re raising here