:geordi-no: Daily dem soc struggle sessions

:geordi-yes: Talking about my undying affection of Tasha Yar and Kira

  • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    6 years ago
    possibly Tsar Bomba level take (and DS9 spoilers)

    I liked Ezri a lot more than Jadzia because I saw Dax as a sort of (unintentional) trans allegory and I could relate a lot more to Ezri’s struggle with being unsure of herself and her journey with finding a place for herself in the world post-joining.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      6 years ago

      ezri doesnt deserve much guff but the out of universe circumstances piss me off intensely

      jadzia’s actor literally got fired for wanting an equal wage as the men its such bullshit

      • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        6 years ago

        Oh it’s wayyyy worse than wages. Rick Berman, the producer of the franchise after Gene Roddenberry died was a serial sexual harraser and especially towards Terry Farrell who played Jadzia. I actually never heard anything about wages,.

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          6 years ago

          oh yeah berman was a monster in a lot of ways but i think the specifics of farrells firing was over compensation. not absolutely sure about that tho.

          also pissed he made 7 of 9 wear that outfit & corset, made kira wear that shit… etc. etc. just a bad fucking guy

          edit: maybe she wasnt fired & quit cuz they refused to do equality?

        • bark [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          6 years ago

          It was wages too.

          They jerked the actors around a lot. Wil Wheaton left because he had a chance to do a role in a big movie (this was when he was still kind of up and coming) and they told him no on the grounds that he would be needed for an important role in an episode. Not true.

          Mulgrew hated working with Jeri Ryan (first female captain increasingly sidelined for T&A)

          Refused to let them do anything too challenging. In the episode where Riker falls in love with a genderless alien (and the alien ends up expressing as a female and gets harsh treatment for it) Frakes thought it should be played by a man and he was totally down to do the first same sex kiss. Berman didn’t like that.

          He had no problem when Dax kissed another woman years later though.

      • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        6 years ago

        Yeah, I found that out after I finished DS9 and was horrified. From the few behind the scenes stuff I’ve seen about that era of trek it seems that the working conditions were abyssmal. Especially for the captains. I vaguely remember Kate Mulgrew talking about how playing Janeway for 7 years severely affected her home life.