Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 2 months agoCan things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?message-squaremessage-square61linkfedilinkarrow-up140arrow-down18
arrow-up132arrow-down1message-squareCan things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 2 months agomessage-square61linkfedilink
minus-square∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzlinkfedilinkarrow-up16arrow-down1·2 months agoObviously, yes. But now the question is, can you be aware of things that don’t exist?
minus-squareMeow@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up6arrow-down1·2 months agoAs fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.
minus-squareAhmed@lemmy.zipOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down5·2 months agoMaybe we’re not aware of a non-existent thing itself, but of an idea or perception in our minds.
minus-square∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·2 months agoActually this is the right answer, and doesn’t deserve the downvotes.
minus-squareMeow@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1·2 months agoI think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed’s answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed’s answer.
minus-squarepmk@piefed.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·2 months agoHow does this differ from having an idea or perception in our minds about existing things?
minus-squareAhmed@lemmy.zipOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·2 months agopurely imaginary things exist only in the mind.
minus-squarepmk@piefed.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 months agoBut are we aware of existing things in themselves, apart from the idea and perception in our minds?
Obviously, yes. But now the question is, can you be aware of things that don’t exist?
As fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.
Maybe we’re not aware of a non-existent thing itself, but of an idea or perception in our minds.
Actually this is the right answer, and doesn’t deserve the downvotes.
I think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed’s answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed’s answer.
How does this differ from having an idea or perception in our minds about existing things?
purely imaginary things exist only in the mind.
But are we aware of existing things in themselves, apart from the idea and perception in our minds?