Dear lemmy, someone very close to my heart is starting to fall into conspiracy theories. It’s heartbreaking. Among other things, he has now told me that soy beans are not supposed to be consumed by human beings and is convinced that despite the literal centuries of human soy bean cultivation and consumption, we shouldn’t eat it or anything derived from it for this reason (ie tofu, soy sauce, etc…evidence that soy is present in other common foods doesn’t seem to register with him).
I don’t even know where he got this information from and can’t find a single source to back it up (even disingenuously). I’ve tried explaining to him that sure, in its original state it’s not edible, but undergoes processing (LIKE MANY OTHER FOODS) to become edible. And that this has gone on since at least the 11th century, so it’s not like Big Soy is trying to poison the little people.
He’s normally a very reasonable and intelligent person, and I don’t know how to reach him. I thought it might be helpful to show him where these myths have come from with hard data sources to prove it. He seems open to the possibility, so I don’t think he’s a lost cause yet!
Help?
Scientific illiteracy. People think phytoestrogen is the same as human estrogen.
The thing that makes me giggle is that many animal products, particularly breast milk, do have estrogen in them. Not in particularly significant quantities though but it’s hilarious.
Which is even more hilarious when you find out there are body builders out there who buy breast milk for their gains.
All milk is breast milk. You mean human breast milk.
What’s crazy to me is that people are so weirded out by the thought of a grown up consuming human breast milk all the while cow, goat, sheep, camel etc are considered nOrMaL for adult human consumption
I wouldn’t consider a cows udders to be breasts.
They are functionally the same.
I’m a trans woman and I recall this myth when I first learned abt trans stuff back in '06 or so. It was widely believed and shared in trans spaces that phytoestrogen could help marginally before getting access to human estrogen. Sites like Laura’s Playground (one of the largest online trans resources at the time) were filled with junk like this, along with a bunch of heteronormative and gender-essentialist takes that were super damaging. I’m glad resources are better and more prevalent now.
That was a long winded way of saying that I’m pretty sure a chunk of the culture war bs regarding soy (“soyboys”) came out of these pseudoscientific claims on trans forums, mixed with a dose of racism (wrt asian cultures that use soy in cooking).