That’s fair, but owing to just how Vim and Emacs operate, and the kinda people they target, there isn’t really much drive to capture the userbase (specifically because any attempt to capture them will fail due to a fork).
People who use those editors are passionate about them, while people who use the Atom derivatives tend to just eat something that does whatever it is they want out of the box.
Most people will also just pin their Vim or Emacs version for years, while it’s almost impossible to pin VScode/Electron stuff because it’s full of bitrot and weird dependencies.
Lol, I’m not an avid vimmer, but I do know some Emacs users that are still running old versions because they have specific configs or modules that only work with that version.
I’ve got one friend who’s a professor now and uses an old Emacs setup to do all his writing.
Emacs or vim classic.
If you’re on KDE, Kate is ok, I guess.
VSCodium is alright, I use VSCode at work because we’re a Windows shop.
You should definitely spend the time to learn Emacs or Vim if you have the time though, they’re never going to be enshittified.
I’ve got bad news for you
Drew’s a (well-meaning) lib and anti-slop derangement is almost as annoying as the slop bros but still
what is deranged about this fork?
What’s the issue with a fork?
no issue, just an indicator mainline Vim is being enshittified if you agree with drew
That’s fair, but owing to just how Vim and Emacs operate, and the kinda people they target, there isn’t really much drive to capture the userbase (specifically because any attempt to capture them will fail due to a fork).
People who use those editors are passionate about them, while people who use the Atom derivatives tend to just eat something that does whatever it is they want out of the box.
Most people will also just pin their Vim or Emacs version for years, while it’s almost impossible to pin VScode/Electron stuff because it’s full of bitrot and weird dependencies.
that’s a wild claim to me as a vim user but it takes all types I guess
Lol, I’m not an avid vimmer, but I do know some Emacs users that are still running old versions because they have specific configs or modules that only work with that version.
I’ve got one friend who’s a professor now and uses an old Emacs setup to do all his writing.