Can anyone tell this meme is true or false? I don’t have Gspy so I cannot test this
never in my life have i ever said “hey” anything to my phone and i intend to keep it that way
Don’t know about Google home, but google meet is definitely like this. You mute your mic from the UI, you speak, and a small popup tells you something like, “are you trying to speak, your mic is off”.
Something like this also happened on Short Circuit (a channel of Linus Tech Tips) when testing Meta Glasses. Riley, the host was talking to it, and after the convo ended, he asked, “are you still listening?” And meta replied, “No”.
So, yes, it is safe to assume that the microphones are always listening and probably recording. These things are spywares and do not belong in private places like homes.
Muting microphone in a meeting is very different, the point is you don’t want other attendees to hear you, not the meeting software.
Otherwise agreed, the only way this can be 100% trusted is using a hw switch, which we won’t find on any phones and only a handful of laptops.Guys, ten or hundred of thousands security researchers have been going at this for years. Google isn’t secretly listening to you.
These things work with 2 mics, and 2 different circuits. The recording mic is one, while the detection mic is another. The second mic is only capable of pattern matching.
So yeah it’s on but only capable of hashing a 5 second recording and matching it to your voice (this shit works a lot like rsa keys if that’s helpful) to serve as a wake word. Maybe flag a simple response.
All that’s happening is the device heard a loud sound and knows it wasn’t a match or what’s expected.
You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t believe that those fuckers are being honest and open with our data.
That’s the neat part. You don’t. There is an entire industry of devs trying to be the guy who conclusively proved all the companies are actually recording you.
It’s far too easy to change the software that drives that. For example, in order to minimize blatant power drain the trigger mic could easily become a switch that activates the main mic only when human voices are detected (or even specific voices). With authoritarian governments on the rise — along with the more than willing corporations backing them — I don’t think a bit of paranoia regarding the possibility is unwarranted.
ETA: Also there’s nothing saying the hardware can’t be updated for newer capabilities without anyone on the outside knowing. It’d be pretty easy to get away with once everyone gets lulled into a false sense of security regarding how they work.
Which is why shit is continuously tested. Guys, billions of dollars goes into this. It’s not hard to find extra data pushed into packets. Far more complex shit is the norm.
f-droid’s website https://f-droid.org/ has a link to https://keepandroidopen.org/ which says in Google will lock down Android in September,
If you were planning on reformatting your phone to GrapheneOS, LineageOS, PostmarketOS, or UbuntuTouch, now is the time to do it.
Fuck man I cannot buy a new phone right now. All apps I use are from fdroid. I’m kinda fucked ain’t I?
Looking at cad$300 for a pixel 8a to get graphine on it. So sad my galaxy 9 can’t run postmarket, lineage, or anything really.
I guess the pixel 3a (I think that’s the one) with Ubuntu touch could work. Only a hundred it looks like to get that
Even better, under community builds here it looks like PostmarketOS supports Galaxy 9
I know this won’t be a popular answer, but with my distaste for google, my switch to linux, the rumored google search revamp later this month turning it completely to AI and THIS? I’m going to go to iOS I believe
If you think google is problematic in terms of either control or spying I got serious news for you little buddy.
Just get a Pine Phone or similar linux-based device.
If you are implying iOS is anywhere near the control and spyware of google, you don’t know tech at all.
We’re not implying it, it’s ready fact. That walled garden is more secure against the outside, but you are completely a product to them that gets sold and you’re at the mercy of their appstore. Your data is not securely deleted from their cloud, tons of reports of data deleted years ago coming back, multiple attempts of them to auto-delete offending pictures from your roll with AI and the service being extremely overzealous.
All that did is further my point.
we don’t know what apple does with it, we DO however know exactly what google has done and is doing with it. It’s not just them either, its preinstalled apps on flagship devices. iOS doesn’t have hidden meta files on your phone, and as you said, it is more secure.
we don’t know what apple does with it
So go put your social security number on a billboard, you don’t know what people will do with it.
it only furthers your point if you’re sticking your fingers in your ears and going annanananananananananana
Apple was the first company to start using AI to scan cloud storage and later iOS devices themselves ‘for CSEM.’
and they are the only OS widely available that isn’t incorporating AI baked into every app so far as android 17 going to allow gemini to control your phone for you and read anything on your device.
…Siri has been around longer than all google AI integrations and has had phone control features since the iphone 8.
That comment alone tells me you don’t know what you are talking about.
Siri, to this day is a voicd-command assistant.
Read this part slower:
Google is actively developing “screen automation” so Gemini can order food or book rides in apps without you touching the phone. Android 17 is being framed as an “intelligence system” where the assistant does real tasks on your behalf.
You are saying Siri has done that since iOS8? How old are you? was iOS 8 like the oldesr you can think of?
The control on iOS is much stricter, and it always has been, but I suppose at least they sold it as such from the start and didn’t slowly trickle it in while pretending to be supporting open source. The spyware is also the same. They probably share it with a few fewer people I guess, that’s about the best you could possibly say for it.
The control for their hardware and sofware yes. They do it all in house.
between Google and Apple, you genuinely believe iOS tracks and retains more data than Google? Google who is a data collection agency at this point?
Android phones preinstall meta apps as well as google apps. Both heavy trackers. Even on a galaxy ultra device, hidden meta files will remain. You can’t even plug in and remove them passed the 24 models, as samsung and google have worked to explicitly block that.
iOS does not. iOS has apple apps preinstalled. Hell they don’t even come with youtube anymore.
Google is also pushing to block ‘sideloading’ while apple is opening it up.
google is putting gemini ON devices with android 17 that can read your screens and do any task on your phone without your physical interaction, beyond voice.
There is no avenue you can show or explain to me that would paint iOS near google’s anti trust data collection. You are acting as if I said 'iOS solves the whole issue."
control for their hardware and sofware yes. They do it all in house.
what else is there but hardware and software?
between Google and Apple, you genuinely believe iOS tracks and retains more data than Google
they both collect as much data as they possibly can, yeah
Android phones preinstall meta apps as well as google apps.
iOS does not. iOS has apple apps preinstalled. Hell they don’t even come with youtube anymore.
That’s OEMs, not Google. AOSP doesn’t come with anything installed.
Google is also pushing to block ‘sideloading’ while apple is opening it up.
Google is requiring registration with ID to publish on the app store. Apple always had that. The EU is forcing them to allow other app stores. Google will also have to do that.
google is putting gemini ON devices with android 17 that can read your screens and do any task on your phone without your physical interaction, beyond voice.
Apple tried to do this and just failed miserably to make it work, as tech improves they will do it again
There is no avenue you can show or explain to me that would paint iOS near google’s anti trust data collection.
Ok, if you aren’t interested in facts I guess we’re done here…
yeah they’re just trolling, no facts, just straight downvotes anythime you post anything of substance they can’t defend against. They don’t have a point and they know it.
Yes, they do it all in house. is that a surprise to you? Are you under the implication other brands do it all.in house, because I have news for you child.
There is no evidence of apple selling data to third parties or allowing third party apps to be preinstalled on their devices. There is also no carrier locked bootloader on any iPhone.
ANDROID devices (which are maintained by Google) come with an abundance of preinstalled apps thay you can’t see without using a debloater (which current models have had that broken)
So youre arguing Apple has had a better app store considering they are adding support for sideloading where as google is removing it? Interesting switch up.
Anf still, Apple isn’t doing it.
You haven’t shown one fact. You simply posted opinionated responses to my comments.
You sound like a dwindeling smooth brain who just can’t live knowing people think iOS just might be better.
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You had to say ‘guess you dont lile facts’ or whatever while your evidence to data tracking was ‘they both do it as much as they can’ LMFAO Youre a joke. You get no more of my time child.
yeah, would love to, but last time I checked my phone is not supported
Shit, not even with Lineage? What model is your phone?
Samsung Galaxy A35
Yeah, I just checked Lineage and it’s not on the list.
The problem with Samsung (last time I checked at least) is that the moment you unlock the bootloader (which is needed to install anything other than stock), there’s a flag raised voiding the warranty. That flag from what I know is acting like a hardware fuse, so it’s pretty much non-reversible. Shame, really, because Samsung do have some really nice things in terms of hardware.
Well, It’s also a quite old phone. I was never one to replace something just because newer version is available.
So, there are unsupported builds of Lineage for the phone. Can definitely understand why you wouldn’t want to try that though.
I may try unsupported builds on a phone I don’t use, but for that I would need to buy phone.
The meme makes it sound like they turn off the server transmit feature. Though I also could believe this meme being false as well. “Ok Google” detection runs locally on the device as training a model to detect that and only that accurately without a server is easy to do and costs a lot less than having every device continuously transmitting the microphone. So it’s possible mute just disables transmission to the Internet rather than the mic.
i love all the hate google gets
Peace be with you 🌹. I could really feel that this sentence came straight from the heart 😂😂. Jokes aside, same here✋🏻😐. I hate them too.
Well if that ain’t the most AI response of all time
The funny thing, I really use an AI for translation because my English on its own sucks. 😂 So you are right. Peace be with you 🌹😁
You should use it to help you, but don’t just copy paste the outputs, you’ll never learn for yourself that way 😭
Peace be with you 🌹 I know, and dont worry, this time I typing without AI.😁 The Things is “to undestand” is easy for me, but speaking an writing?.. There a lot of problems, like the past and present rules. When I translated a word exactly how its use on german, its sound weird in english. So I use the AI, to help me, and so you can better undestand me. But believe it or not, this english , is my “good” english😂😂. Couple years ago , it was much worser, but i starting to watch Supernatural on English with german subtitels. That helps me a lot. And i swear by God, this time I dont use an AI. So what you think? Is my english bad or not?😁.
Is it perfect? No. But I understand everything you said! Personally, I’d rather you do your best and make mistakes than read stiff AI generated text. That and your English is a hell of a lot better than my German :). If any English speakers call you out on your writing, at least you’re actually multilingual, while they probably only speak English.
I’ve actually been learning Japanese for a couple of years now and what I like to do is write out what I want to say first, run it through an AI to correct it, then see why and how I messed it up.
It’s just that it throws in a bunch of emojis for no reason.
