“People only eat meat for pleasure” - we have all seen some version of this chestnut thrown about in conversations
The people who make this type of assumption about other peoples mental state and emotions are really telling on themselves.
Carnivores (zero-carb) don’t get hedonistic pleasure from eating meat. In fact, like people doing a ketogenic diet, the food noise goes away. This is very important so I need to repeat it: THE FOOD NOISE GOES AWAY. If you don’t know what this means - it’s probably because you haven’t yet experienced the absolute calm that comes from deep ketosis. Almost everyone stumbles through their day thinking about food, what to eat next, what they want, what they could have, etc… All of this goes away. All of it.
Carnivores do get hungry, but its not a voracious beast that blisses out on each bite like a cat discovering catnip, and the only way to stop is to fight your latent hedonism.
The “meat for pleasure” rhetorical device is making it some moral issue, but it reflects on the speaker’s personal cravings… since they are missing essential nutrients (I assume) they can only think of meat in terms of pleasurable
It’s applying the carb addicted mindset of hedonistic pleasure with every meal. Oh one more cookie, two more, well just this box. That is the pleasure cycle. I can see someone who has only lived in this cycle projecting it onto zero carb carnivore, but it’s not accurate at all.
When I’m clean carnivore I’ve never looked at meat and thought - ohh yeah this is going to be pleasurable… I’m just hungry and I know this food will solve the hunger, and it will taste good. No lust, no cravings, no “pleasure”, and I can skip the meal no problems as well. It’s like living on the furthest edge of “I could eat”. And when you get full, that’s it, very satisfied, you don’t want anymore. No “i’m being bad, just another steak”.
Consider a Mc Donalds Big Mac Meal - Delicious! I could eat 5, until I’m stuffed beyond reason and I’m rolling out of the restaurant… But that isn’t because of the meat, the beef in a Big Mac Meal is barely 15% of the energy… the 85% carbs - fries, sauces, spices, drinks, buns - every thing that comes from plants - is what makes that addictive.
Next time you are at a BBQ place - order the BBQ dry/no sauce. Eat a bit of it. Now add your normal sauces… Big difference - right? The one with the sugar sauce is irritable, gotta take another bite… even if your stuffed.
I’ll be honest - I’d much rather eat some cookies and french fries then a steak. The addiction is strong, and real. If I didn’t care about my health, I would 100% choose chocolate and ice cream over meat every day… and I would do it for pure hedonistic pleasure.
I recall when there was so much hedonistic pleasure in eating a potato - complex rules to cook it just right. So much of it was planning and imagining
And that can’t compare to modern engineered hyper palatable stuff for moreishness and food noise
You are reminding me of cruise ships, where you eat, drink, eat, drink, repeat… and what do people talk about while their drinking? The food! They have the best baked potatoes on C deck with sour cream and chives… it’s to die for!
Seriously… eating one meal a day, that takes a few minutes to cook. Before I’d eat out because I was lazy to cook, but now I cook because I’m lazy to drive… It’s so simple.