dive into the history of “ascorbic acid,” exploring its roots in Latin and its essential role as an anti-scurvy nutrient. This discussion highlights the importance of understanding our vitamins and the impact of vitamin deficiency on health.

Article companion: https://theukcarnivore.substack.com/p/understanding-the-importance-of-dhaa

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Core thesis

  • Vitamin C is tied to the scurvy story, with bleeding-gum avoidance as the narrow endpoint.
  • The form central here is DHAA from animal foods, not plant ascorbic acid or supplement megadoses.
  • GULO gene loss is an efficient adaptation to a meat-based diet.
  • The name ascorbic acid keeps nutrition tied to anti-scurvy thinking across more than a century.

DHAA as the usable form

  • DHAA is oxidized vitamin C, not omega-3 DHA, and it can convert back into ascorbic acid inside cells.
  • Red blood cells take up DHAA, convert it back into ascorbic acid, and move it through the bloodstream.
  • DHAA uses glucose transporters, especially GLUT1, which gives it strong cellular access.
  • DHAA crosses the blood-brain barrier, enters cell membranes, and reaches mitochondria.
  • The body uses DHAA where oxidative stress is high, especially in tissues with heavy oxygen demand.
  • Blood plasma is mostly ascorbic acid, while heart and lung tissue can contain a large DHAA share of total vitamin C.

Evolution and recycling

  • Most mammals make vitamin C from glucose, while humans and a few other species lost that pathway through GULO gene loss.
  • That loss fits ancestral reliance on fresh animal foods that already supplied DHAA.
  • Humans recycle ascorbic acid efficiently, so small amounts support collagen and core vitamin C functions.
  • Low carbohydrate intake lowers glucose competition for transporters, making the DHAA pathway more coherent.
  • The problem is not a missing orange; it is a modern misunderstanding of which vitamin C form matters.

Scurvy, sailors, and food history

  • The sailor scurvy story is not simply a citrus story; it is also a fresh-meat story.
  • Long voyages relied on hardtack, grain, old salted pork, and other depleted rations without fresh meat.
  • When meat ran out or became rancid, sailors were left with grain-heavy food that lacked the needed vitamin C activity.
  • Fresh meat had already been known to cure scurvy, while the later lime story dominated the public lesson.
  • Nutrition databases and old food tables miss the point when they focus only on plant ascorbic acid and omit DHAA in meat.

Antioxidants, glucose damage, and low-carb metabolism

  • Ascorbic acid is reactive and can become harmful at megadose levels, especially as a supplement isolated from ancestral food patterns.
  • The body’s main antioxidant defense comes from glutathione, superoxide dismutase, catalase, and other stable systems.
  • Meat supplies sulfur amino acids such as methionine and cysteine, which support glutathione production.
  • Ketogenic and carnivore-style eating are linked here to higher glutathione and lower oxidative burden.
  • High glucose drives damaging pathways such as polyol flux, AGEs, PKC activation, and hexosamine metabolism.
  • Glycation damages collagen and elastin, which connects excess sugar to visible aging and tissue breakdown.

Collagen, immunity, brain function, and food choice

  • Vitamin C is still needed for collagen synthesis, but the needed form can come through DHAA from animal foods.
  • Collagen supplements break down into amino acids, so the body still has to rebuild collagen using vitamin C-dependent chemistry.
  • Glycine, lysine, and NAC support collagen and glutathione more directly than trusting random collagen powders.
  • DHAA also fits immune defense, heart and lung function, brain protection, and mitochondrial protection.
  • Modern fruit is depleted and picked unripe, while fresh meat provides a more bioavailable vitamin C route through DHAA.
  • The practical answer is fresh animal food, not orange juice, fortified flour, or high-dose ascorbic acid.

References

    • jet@hackertalks.comOPM
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      12 days ago

      Depends which vitamin c you mean, dhaa is abundant, carnivores don’t get scurvy.

      No glucose intake also means there isn’t much contention on the glut4 transporter so the vitamin c gets into cells with less competition. I.e. the vitamin c carnivores get is highly effective, very bioavailabile.

    • psud@aussie.zoneM
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      12 days ago

      I have been doing zero carb/carnivore for 3 and a half years and my blood work has been excellent on each test.