We’re building AI that answers to the planet. And it’s now more European – which means more independent, and more private.
Our AI is 100% optional, like it has always been. Turn off Overviews anytime.
AI overviews should be opt-in, not opt-out.
I like Ecosia’s overall mission (focus on eco-friendlyness, building an independent index together with Quant etc.) it’s my main search engine now, with all AI features disabled. But I just checked with a private browser and the front page features the slogan “AI that answers to the planet”. I don’t like this switch to being an AI chatbot first, search engine second.
Feels like greenwashing, in addition to cashing in on the growing pro-eu/nationalistic(?) sentiment in face of people suddenly realising that the western colony that’s been terrorising large swathes of the world for centuries aren’t actually the good guys.
There’s no such thing as an eco-friendly LLM, and Mistral is a company of crooks. They just happen to be European crooks. We shouldn’t approve of crooks.
Why the Mistral hate? Was there some controversy I missed?
It’s an LLM company, there’s no such thing as an environmentally friendly or ethical LLM company. They’re not automatically a better company just because they’re based here in Europe.
This “transparent and trustworthy” corporation provides their weights, but their datasets are still closed. There’s this little “controvery” from a while back, where their models were 60 times more likely to generate CSAM than OpenAI’s models.
Ergo, their training material includes CSAM. Ergo, just like all other LLM companies they’ve scoured the internet for all data they can get. It’s all theft, all the way down.
They’ve also had problems with GDPR compliance, and their solution was to just change their TOS.
It’s an AI company who does all the same bs as the others.
No hate, is that just LLMs consume more water than towns, and here we have a supposedly eco friendly search engine using one. At least they should make it opt-in.
If you can explain how any LLM, Mistral included, actually removes CO2/Methane from the Earth’s atmosphere, I’m all ears.
Don’t you believe in techno Jesus? Salvation from climate change is near, just one more data center and we will have all the answers! (Spoiler: We already have all the answers, we just don’t like them.)
It is greenwashing, that’s why
Yeah no, I’m out.
Wow! That’s amazing! You should delete it and fire everyone involved!
Our shit, got shitier.
Gross
something doesn’t match… Eco friendly search engine with LLM (which are known for guzzling water) ?!?
Many AI datacenters use closed-loop cooling. Loaded once with RO purified water without any additions and zero discharge. I know because I work in one.
However, it’s the bad actors that get the headlines.
Yeah what a nonsensical pile of shite. If anything it’s a good case study of why not to take any notice of marketing.
Gonna chime in and say that water and electricity usage for one AI summary is negligible. Even if it’s not anymore when millions of people do it, that’s not a significant problem imo. While I hate the AI technocrat propanda recolution, I think strengthening Mistral AI is good for European strength and resilience. I, yes, I acknowledge that European politicians are just as neoliberally and technocratically polished as the Americans.
