https://x.com/GerHolanda63475/status/2045923095886672316

CW: SA Mention of the Comfort women

https://x.com/hlnolvrgo_c/status/2044507463173456300

https://x.com/Erivlt/status/2045525574408368600

https://x.com/Erivlt/status/2045545414875574751

Auto-translate feels like releasing invasive species into Japan. I saw a Japanese threatening a Russian by pirating Dostoevsky, only for the Russian to reply with a pirate site and some book recommendations. They have no natural defenses against these people. RIP the ecosystem.

https://x.com/AllbonesJones/status/2045309780177330663

https://x.com/NestyEco/status/2045911597785252035

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t think that’s a fair characterization, no. You are correct that I wouldn’t call being Chinese a blank check for an individual to start saying slurs against the Japanese. But I don’t think it’s by virtue of some requisite threshold/relevance of suffering or coherence of identity. It’s also not one I’m familiar with. So the scathing rebuke of white identity and the state of race in the US which comprises the grand majority of my post doesn’t cleanly map to the landscape of Chinese identity.

    However, yes, I would love to see a world where interacting with a Chinese person doesn’t implicitly mean I’m interacting with 5000 years of history projected onto this person. If they’re dork then I don’t want to consider their reasonable reason for being a dork.

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      All that makes sense but this part is bad

      However, yes, I would love to see a world where interacting with a Chinese person doesn’t implicitly mean I’m interacting with 5000 years of history projected onto this person. If they’re dork then I don’t want to consider their reasonable reason for being a dork.

      It’s not 5000 years of history it’s living memory. My grandmother lived through the Japanese occupation era, the Japanese still sanctify and worship their war criminals, they have yet to give any meaningful apology beyond handwaving words, many still deny atrociticies like Nanjing, they are currently pushing remilitarization among much more. You don’t have to understand all 5000 years of history but not taking into account less than 100 is ridiculous like not taking slavery into account when talking about black people in America in 1965.

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        I absolutely understand and appreciate that perspective. I meant to address WW2 specifically when I had added a footnote specific to it:

        *There are relevant 20th century war crimes that affect the shape of today - namely the relationship between China and Japan. I do wish that the discussion would be regarding the grievance itself as opposed to slurs for the same reason the race algebra is a depressing thing to consider.

        Which is to say that there are inseparable grievances tied to the Chinese identity in the modern day that propagate forward. Tension with the US is evidence enough of this.

        So yes, I’m not here to pop off on some “all Chinese history matters” and I absolutely see that paragraph reading as such. I didn’t mean it like that because I wrote it in aggregate with the specific point about Japanese WW2 atrocities in mind. So I apologize for the phrasing.