(This is a question for people like me who don’t self host their email.)
Germany, since I’m a German citizen and know my local rights and laws better than anywhere else. Also easier to take legal action against the company if they they mess up.
Any legal hoster will have to give up the data to local LEA, eventually. I would rather go for a hoster that has proven to use encryption and is legally fighting any order they receive.
and is legally fighting any order they receive.
I don’t think a provider should fight any order, especially if the chance of success is low or basically zero. It’s also very expensive. A provider that doesn’t have the data in the first place, is legally speaking better.
Not every order providers recieve is rightfull or legal or even fullfill the requirements of the law, or the legal forms are just not filled out correctly by the officer or department.
Fighting does not really mean, go to court, that would only really make sense for precedence, but more like “only do as much as you are required by law” and maybe “delay everything as much as you are allowed by law”.
But an email provider will have to retain the data unlike VPN companies. Personal details, maybe but there are ways to never share them in the first place but the unencrypted emails are always at risk.
Bunch of fuckzips
I wasn’t sure how many here would get a Nathan Barley reference
I still rewatch it every few years, love it!
It’s so good.
The guy is also in Benidorm and plays a very different character
Like geni wish. Because my own country with it treats email the way it treats physical mail most stringently.
Sealand!
Or space!
I feel like that’s the reason people have been talking about space data centers. Once it’s up there it’s kinda hard to get access to it.
I’m not sure for what matters it makes a difference, namely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand#Legal_status
Also AFAICT since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HavenCo my understanding is that P2P and distributed technical solutions (torrent, Onion routing, I2P, bitcoin, etc) improved enough that it wasn’t really worth it.



