Italy expels Muslim leader who defended marriage to 9-year-old girl.
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1shgxzr/italy_expels_muslim_leader_who_defended_marriage
Italy expels Muslim leader who defended marriage to 9-year-old girl.
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1shgxzr/italy_expels_muslim_leader_who_defended_marriage
What’s the real story?
//CW mantions of CSA
From the looks of it a Pakistani imam who got into an interview with an agent pretending to be a convert, who kept asking “when is a girl considered an adult”, Ali.K kept saying when she hits puberty. I’m guessing the agent asked “what if she’s 9 and hits puberty” and he says yes.Article is clearly chud propaganda considering that it calls a random imam a “Muslim leader” you’d think he was a marjaa or a grand shiekh, could be just a guy using his home as a prayer spot for all we know.
As for the actual subject of the matter, it’s far too complex and sensetive for me to talk about, I’m not really someone who can judge or speak about it. There’s a side of arbitrary age lines [T], meaning of what is an adult and what is marriage, a side of the Saudi funding of madrassas in Pakistan.
There’s also a difference in sexual taboos, like from my experience (not my personal) I notice that a relationship (CSA) is very different from western societies to uneducated areas, like a relationship between a 12 year old and a 20 year old in (A) rural third world country is completely different from a relationship with the same ages in a first world country or a (B) developed part of that same third world countries, both relationships are abusive and are CSA, but the person in the (A) is uneducated thinks it’s normal and does not comprehend the scope of the relationship and the dangers and abuse that come with it. Person (B) knows it’s wrong and comprehends what the consequences of the actions are and are what they seek.
The issue should be solved by third world thinkers in this case Muslims like every other topic like feminism, gender and queer rights. And can’t be solved by chauvinism from the Imperial core.
The action of the Italian state clearly comes from anti-immigrant and Islamophobic motives, because pedophiles like Trump, Clinton don’t get punished, or actually Epstein could be revived from the dead and would walk freely around Europe and America without fearing state action from the looks of it.
Another issue here is the danger of the new age of “Pop imams” who can not question narratives or the possibilities of misinterpretation or complexity of certain subjects, uneducated and unsuitable for roles and only parrot the source that they grew up with. From my basic Islamic school education they still shouldn’t be allowed to marry at that age because it guarantees physical and psychological harm and isn’t a necessity to preserve life. two things that you need knowledge about child health and safety to know about.
[T] how at the same age a child can be considered responsible enough to harm themselves through alcohol but too young to consent in some parts of Europe, but it’s the otherway around in America, same thing with the age to drive join the military and vote.
edit: more context has been added by the keld comment, so I take back my wording on the first paragraph.
TikTok Imams are a plague to this earth.
In many contexts that I have experienced, being an “adult” means you start wearing your hijab, which is usually after the first period.
The rage bait is stupid though. In Islam, local laws take precedence if they don’t restrict your religious beliefs. There is no fundamental law in Islam saying you must marry a 13 year old, so local laws take precedent. However, if France does a hijab ban, you don’t follow that law because it is a restriction on your beliefs.