So, I’m not assuming that you or the person I replied to are in the US specifically.
But in the context of the US, if you (generally) chose not to vote in the 2024 election then you are guilty of doing nothing to prevent the atrocities committed by the Trump administration, when you in fact had the opportunity to do something - which is to say that you are guilty of negligence.
If you encouraged others to not vote then you are complicit in the actions of the Trump administration, because you helped put them in power.
There is no “blame-shifting game” being played here, as there is no need to shift anything. The blame is direct, valid, and undeniable.
I’d really love to know which candidates these assholes primaried for or what revolutions they’ve started. I can get behind NOT WANTING to vote bc it feels bad most of the time but pretending their inaction is some moral victory is feeble minded.
Your vote is a formality until it swings the state. What is a swing state changes every election. You never truly know until after you voted so vote every time.
The problem is, there often more than a million people in that state all thinking the same thing, that their vote doesn’t matter. Well, they’ve self fulfilled by taking themselves out of the equation.
in the context of the US, if you (generally) chose not to vote in the 2024 election then you are guilty of doing nothing to prevent the atrocities committed by the Trump administration
This is really a false dichotomy. There are so many other ways to fight against the atrocities. Given how enthusiastically the democrats are cooperating with the fascist agenda, if you didn’t vote but you uploaded some info to one of those ice watch apps, or went and protested in LA, or shuffled papers to slow down their progress in your federal job, you probably already did more tangible good than someone who did the other way around.
What if they were in a state where their vote wouldn’t have even remotely changed the electoral vote outcome? It’s a strawman blame game you’re playing to feel smug about yourself in a generalized approach.
You don’t know anyone’s personal situation yet you have no qualm placing blame for a worldwide issue on a single individual.
Good for you. You shamed someone for not solving the worlds climate issues with a single fucking vote that may not have even made any difference at all.
Or, and please hear me out, because you’re not going to like it.
The Republican party are directly responsible for putting Trump as the nominee.
The people who voted Republican are directly responsible.
The Democrat party are indirectly responsible by presenting such a poor-looking alternative. “We’re not Trump” is not enough.
The people who chose not to vote are the least responsible of all.
You’re directing your anger in the wrong direction. It’s the corruption within the system you need to be tearing down, not some poor sod on the internet.
What’s the plan - to scare them into voting the way you want in the next election? To argue with and win over the millions of extra voters the Democrats needed?
The problem isn’t with the people who saw that both sides were bad options - it’s with the Democrat party for being a bad option.
Cool story bud but that’s not how shit works. Go play your reactionary, blame-shifting games elsewhere.
So, I’m not assuming that you or the person I replied to are in the US specifically.
But in the context of the US, if you (generally) chose not to vote in the 2024 election then you are guilty of doing nothing to prevent the atrocities committed by the Trump administration, when you in fact had the opportunity to do something - which is to say that you are guilty of negligence.
If you encouraged others to not vote then you are complicit in the actions of the Trump administration, because you helped put them in power.
There is no “blame-shifting game” being played here, as there is no need to shift anything. The blame is direct, valid, and undeniable.
I’d really love to know which candidates these assholes primaried for or what revolutions they’ve started. I can get behind NOT WANTING to vote bc it feels bad most of the time but pretending their inaction is some moral victory is feeble minded.
How does that work with electors anyway? I’m under the impression that if you don’t live in a swing state your vote is basically a formality.
Your vote is a formality until it swings the state. What is a swing state changes every election. You never truly know until after you voted so vote every time.
Yes. And even in a swing state, it may take a million or more votes to swing it.
The few states with apportioned electors are the outlier.
Yeah your vote has a one in a million power best case scenario. But in non swing states it willl be a few orders of magnitude less powerful.
The problem is, there often more than a million people in that state all thinking the same thing, that their vote doesn’t matter. Well, they’ve self fulfilled by taking themselves out of the equation.
That’s an unproveable negative, and a strawman. An easy enough target for a crappy argument.
This is really a false dichotomy. There are so many other ways to fight against the atrocities. Given how enthusiastically the democrats are cooperating with the fascist agenda, if you didn’t vote but you uploaded some info to one of those ice watch apps, or went and protested in LA, or shuffled papers to slow down their progress in your federal job, you probably already did more tangible good than someone who did the other way around.
What if they were in a state where their vote wouldn’t have even remotely changed the electoral vote outcome? It’s a strawman blame game you’re playing to feel smug about yourself in a generalized approach.
You don’t know anyone’s personal situation yet you have no qualm placing blame for a worldwide issue on a single individual.
Good for you. You shamed someone for not solving the worlds climate issues with a single fucking vote that may not have even made any difference at all.
Or, and please hear me out, because you’re not going to like it.
The Republican party are directly responsible for putting Trump as the nominee.
The people who voted Republican are directly responsible.
The Democrat party are indirectly responsible by presenting such a poor-looking alternative. “We’re not Trump” is not enough.
The people who chose not to vote are the least responsible of all.
You’re directing your anger in the wrong direction. It’s the corruption within the system you need to be tearing down, not some poor sod on the internet.
What’s the plan - to scare them into voting the way you want in the next election? To argue with and win over the millions of extra voters the Democrats needed?
The problem isn’t with the people who saw that both sides were bad options - it’s with the Democrat party for being a bad option.
They just want internet points and the brief satisfaction of feeling smug by being a piece of shit to someone online.
I’m getting lots of downvotes. The Principal Skinner meme comes to mind.
Is the Democratic Party at fault?
No, the millions of people who didn’t want to vote for the Democratic Party are to blame.
Its exactly how it works, whether you like it or not.
It’s not blame shifting. The blame sits directly on you, personally, and already had been.
No need to shift it at all.