Let’s assume it’s true that the farm laborers of Ukraine didn’t know how to farm and that knowledge was only held by the farm owner kulaks. That’s a really weird thing to say, but we’ll go with it. I’m still glad that dekulakization put an end to this class of owners that were ruling through antisemitic violence.
I think the reason I find liberal whining about the fate of the kulaks so alienating is mostly personal and particular. They’re completely denying the stories of my ancestors, jews driven out of Ukraine and Moldova by pogroms. It’s really annoying on a personal level. But on a broader level, not about me, it seems that these libs don’t know that these kulaks also perpetrated the holocaust in Ukraine as soon as they had the chance. I would think that would be inexcusable. I’m guessing most liberals just don’t know that this happened?
I almost never see slava ukraini libs talk about the OUN-B or anything like that. The few times I’ve seen it discussed with them, it usually got dismissed as “Russian talking points”.
I’m not trying to be glib, I’m just really busy right now, but I would challenge you to find writings about the holocaust in Ukraine that doesn’t discuss the participation of the kulaks. Read yitzkor books where people recorded their personal experiences. Read the entire pre holocaust history of kulaks ruling the Ukranian countryside through antisemitic violence. Consider the entire purpose of modern antisemitism, including the holocaust, which was to preserve petty bourgeois power by misdirecting working class rage.
Let’s assume it’s true that the farm laborers of Ukraine didn’t know how to farm and that knowledge was only held by the farm owner kulaks. That’s a really weird thing to say, but we’ll go with it. I’m still glad that dekulakization put an end to this class of owners that were ruling through antisemitic violence.
I think the reason I find liberal whining about the fate of the kulaks so alienating is mostly personal and particular. They’re completely denying the stories of my ancestors, jews driven out of Ukraine and Moldova by pogroms. It’s really annoying on a personal level. But on a broader level, not about me, it seems that these libs don’t know that these kulaks also perpetrated the holocaust in Ukraine as soon as they had the chance. I would think that would be inexcusable. I’m guessing most liberals just don’t know that this happened?
Most liberals don’t know shit about what they’re talking about and simply parrot redditisms that pass the vibe check
I almost never see slava ukraini libs talk about the OUN-B or anything like that. The few times I’ve seen it discussed with them, it usually got dismissed as “Russian talking points”.
Where did you read this? It sounds very plausible but I am having difficulties locating citations.
I’m not trying to be glib, I’m just really busy right now, but I would challenge you to find writings about the holocaust in Ukraine that doesn’t discuss the participation of the kulaks. Read yitzkor books where people recorded their personal experiences. Read the entire pre holocaust history of kulaks ruling the Ukranian countryside through antisemitic violence. Consider the entire purpose of modern antisemitism, including the holocaust, which was to preserve petty bourgeois power by misdirecting working class rage.