• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    The currently Socialist countries governed by Communist parties are the PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, and Laos, and all are doing pretty well if we take into consideration harsh economic sanctions and embargoes or other unique characteristics inflicted upon them from the outside. Out of all of them, the PRC is doing particularly well and is the most developed, though Vietnam is rising very quickly, especially thanks to an excellent response to COVID that allowed manufacturing to shift towards it for production.

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      9 months ago

      and all are doing pretty well

      China, hmm, so Taiwan, Hong Kong, The Uyghurs control production so they are in charge? Doesn’t look like it. Civil unrest over lack of representation shouldn’t be a thing in a working communism right?

      NK is a dictatorship and we all know it, it doesn’t matter what they call themselves. Also, from ANY journalism that has made it outside the boarders, I think it would be grossly unfair to call them even OK.

      I might give you a couple of points for Cuba being throttled, but damn things aren’t good there.

      I don’t have a lot of expertise in LAOS or Vietnam, things don’t look very rosey

      https://www.voanews.com/a/laotian-workers-facing-poor-economic-conditions-seek-work-elsewhere-/7597775.html

      https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/laos-migrant-workers-brave-exploitation-unsafe-working-conditions-in-thailand/

      Worldwide human-rights watches also don’t paint things well in Vietnam.

      Even if you claim that’s all propaganda, places like Finland, Sweden, United Kingdom, and Europe don’t seem to have any where near the tumult over any of the countries you mentioned.

      To be clear, I don’t think communism can’t work. But I also don’t think any of these countries really take communism seriously. Each of these should be overwhelmingly by the people for the people, but there seem to be serious issues about people and work.

      The current state of capitalism is fucked too. You have to find places that aren’t being pillaged by the oligarchs no matter where you go, and that’s becoming harder and harder no matter your governmental structure.