The murders sparked protests in Messina, Rome and other Italian cities, including Bologna, on Wednesday night. Further events are planned on Thursday.
In March, Giorgia Meloni’s government approved a draft law which for the first time introduced a legal definition of femicide in criminal law, punishing it with life in prison while increasing sentences for crimes including stalking, sexual violence and “revenge porn”.
The law followed the strong public reaction to the killing of Giulia Cecchettin, a 22-year-old student who was murdered by her former boyfriend, Filippo Turetta, in November 2023. Turetta was sentenced to life in prison in December.
Extreme punitive measures from the police and carceral organs of the state will not solve misogynistic violence. I’m glad people are fired up about the problem but this is the wrong approach. It’s been tried 1000 times for other things and it never works.
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For a country like Italy, it will also require a cultural shift. I know they love their macho style hombres but that comes with a downside. I dunno, start at schools perhaps, where you can teach children from little to big on how they should interact together?
The exact same goes for Mexico
“It is often said ‘not all men’. But they are always men.” Elena, sister of 22-year-old Italian Giulia Cecchettin who was brutally murdered by her former boyfriend.
That’s a very hyperbolic statement, and studies suggest about a quarter of spousal murders are committed by women. Closer to 3 in 8 in America.
This is about Italy, not America. Social norms and mores differ.
Well, I guess if only one in four of these “always men” are women, that doesn’t count.
Of course it’s not all men, but there are enough men who kill women for no reason that it’s a problem … especially when the ‘good’ men stand around and do nothing to stop it.
If you don’t want to be lumped in with all men, good for you. Then say something when men start making dumb blonde jokes, or kid around about beating women until the listen/obey.
While studiously ignoring 25% of the problem. Gotcha.
How many of those were self-defense (from either sex)? I wouldn’t mix them for this discussion.
You can try as much as you like to excuse women from responsibility for killing their partners, but the fact of the matter is, women can be just as ruthless as men, just usually in different ways.
Maternal infanticide is still a thing, and a “pediatric study of mothers in the general population found that 70% of mothers with colicky infants experienced explicit aggressive thoughts toward their infants, and over a quarter (26%) of them had infanticidal thoughts during colic episodes”. So, 26% of these kind and loving creatures thought of killing their own child because they cried a lot.
There is a gender disparity, and a much greater difference in expression, but if you want to deal with the root causes of violence, you will have to look beyond gender.
And no, I don’t have a pile of these saved up. I’m just willing to accept that people are people, regardless of gender or a myriad of other demographics, unless a clear link is shown between the demographic and the behavior being examined. The trend towards being shitty has far greater factors than gender.
Huh? I explicitly said I would separate self defense for both sexes, because I believe those aren’t what we are talking about. I wasn’t defending or excusing “women”.
Also, both women and men kill because of serious mental disorders (‘insanity’ in legal terms in the U.S.). How many of those maternal infanticides can be explained by post-partum psychosis or similar conditions? I wouldn’t count murders by insane people (from neither sex).
I suspect you’re not as unbiased as you’d think…
This whole thing started because of the line, “It’s not all men, but it’s always a man.” I’ve given a number of circumstances where it’s definitively not a man, so is it always a man or not?
I guess they can’t blame this on foreigners can they?
Watch this news get buried so fast.
They are literally lancating a new law, maybe read the fucking artocle?
I meant in the news cycle here in America. My bad for not specifying.
