one of the important ways we are the same is our comparable physiology that allows us to have a symbiotic relationship in which we provided them with food and protection and the ability to reproduce, while gleaning for ourselves nutrients.
Yeah, we anthropomorphize anything with a face. It’s a natural human pack instinct. Obviously chickens don’t have the same emotions as humans so we can’t understand them perfectly, but we can tell when they’re afraid or aggressive or nice.
And when we kill them it feels bad. There’s a reason people who work in slaughterhouses have higher rates of depression, insomnia, anxiety substance abuse, and even suicide.
Proving it would require a much deeper understanding of the brain, I think. I’d be very surprised if they had all the same emotions, since they have such different instincts and behaviors and social structures.
It’s also irrelevant to my point.
Whatever emotions they feel, it’s enough for us to empathize with them. That means it hurts us to hurt them. You can feel it yourself if you’ve ever killed or hurt an animal.
There’s empirical evidence that slaughterhouse workers experience deep psychological harm and that’s all I need. It clearly hurts us to hurt animals.
I’m not saying chickens deserve to live because they have emotions, just to be clear. I’m saying that their emotions are enough to trigger our empathy, and that means every time you kill an animal you’re causing yourself psychological distress.
you kind of making a leap of logic though. there may be other explanations for why slaughterhouse workers experience psychological distress. it could be socioeconomic. it may be some other conditioning. your explanation amounts to post hoc ergo propter hoc
one of the important ways we are the same is our comparable physiology that allows us to have a symbiotic relationship in which we provided them with food and protection and the ability to reproduce, while gleaning for ourselves nutrients.
Our comparable physiology also triggers our empathetic instincts, which allows us to understand their emotions in a basic way.
And when we kill them, it hurts us.
Have you ever killed an animal? It feels bad.
this sounds like anthropomorphism
Yeah, we anthropomorphize anything with a face. It’s a natural human pack instinct. Obviously chickens don’t have the same emotions as humans so we can’t understand them perfectly, but we can tell when they’re afraid or aggressive or nice.
And when we kill them it feels bad. There’s a reason people who work in slaughterhouses have higher rates of depression, insomnia, anxiety substance abuse, and even suicide.
I don’t know how we could prove this one way or another.
Proving it would require a much deeper understanding of the brain, I think. I’d be very surprised if they had all the same emotions, since they have such different instincts and behaviors and social structures.
It’s also irrelevant to my point.
Whatever emotions they feel, it’s enough for us to empathize with them. That means it hurts us to hurt them. You can feel it yourself if you’ve ever killed or hurt an animal.
surely you can see that what you are constructing is purely an appeal to emotion, and there is not empirical means to test anything you’re saying.
There’s empirical evidence that slaughterhouse workers experience deep psychological harm and that’s all I need. It clearly hurts us to hurt animals.
I’m not saying chickens deserve to live because they have emotions, just to be clear. I’m saying that their emotions are enough to trigger our empathy, and that means every time you kill an animal you’re causing yourself psychological distress.
you kind of making a leap of logic though. there may be other explanations for why slaughterhouse workers experience psychological distress. it could be socioeconomic. it may be some other conditioning. your explanation amounts to post hoc ergo propter hoc