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Does anyone actually say this though? I don’t think anyone who joined Bluesky did so for federation - they joined because it’s not Twitter.
Yeah there’s this really weird group of people on Lemmy who are obsessed with thinking Twitter and blue sky are the exact same thing. I don’t know if it’s because they don’t get why people switch to Blue Sky or if they’re trying to purposely downplay the Nazi stuff on Twitter. I really can’t decide. Strongly leaning toward the latter.
You are on the Fediverse, a community centered primarily around free, open source, federated software watching every normie on the internet abandon one corpo playpen for another corpo playpen. Of course we’re upset about it.
I think Bluesky is currently better than twitter, I have absolutely no faith that it will remain that way.
This is exactly what I’m fucking talking about. Somehow hand waving away the fact that Twitter’s literally run by a Nazi promoting Nazi ideology. That’s not the same fucking thing as Blue Sky. To say so is bizarre. To play down that difference is bizarre. To act like it’s inevitably going to end up in the exact same place is bizarre.
Founder Jack Dorsey has abandoned Bluesky citing a lack of continued faith in the project and current CEO Jay Graber has primarily worked with cryptocurrency. My hopes are not high. Besides which, even if they do everything right and gain a huge following, Musk or Zuckerberg will just want to buy them out and our current government will allow them to do that.
Not being literal Nazis is definitely a mark in their favor, but the whole point of this argument in the first place is that free, open source, self hosted federated software is RIGHT HERE. We’re on it RIGHT NOW. With everyone abandoning major platforms because they’re full of Nazis, this is perhaps the single best opportunity we’re ever going to have to retake the internet for ourselves en masse. Which everyone is totally ignoring in favor of hopping onto the next corponet.
I’m not excusing Musk for shit, and I’m not accusing Bluesky of being as bad or worse than Nazis. That’s silly. I’d rather see users move to Bluesky than stay on X. But I’d much rather see them move to Mastodon. Corporations at large, especially social media corps have proven time and again that they can’t be trusted, so… don’t. Take back your own internet. The options are here already.
I feel like bluesky is just an attempt by a lot of institutional powers that lost a platform when Elon took over Twitter to make what essentially is a clone of Twitter circa 2018.
What a lot of people forget is that, even before Elon, Twitter had become super toxic. It was basically some pseduo-progressive echo chamber dominated by lazy journalists, virtue signaling politicians, and toxic hot takes divorced from reality. The moderation system was just selectively enforced based on whatever Twitter’s SF HQ thought was relevant that day.
I like the idea of anyone being able to spin up their own server and have a space for discourse. While it can be dangerous, I’d strongly argue that having a centralized private organization deciding what is/isn’t acceptable is a lot more so.
It’s how forums used to be, and it worked just fine. You had to go out of your way to find communities dedicated to bigotry instead of getting forcibly pipelined into them just for joining a funny cat image group.
Fuck. It’s so true to man. I literally grew up on the Internet. I could not imagine that now.
Fun fact:
Bluesky was originally started at Twitter.Kinda - the dev team was external and had already started the project when Twitter offered funding for an open protocol based version of Twitter, and selected the current team to do it (so Jack could avoid moderation duties, lol)
