They support Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, HuggingChat, and Mistral.
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I wish I had telemetry on such features.
I really doubt a significant number of people use AI chatbots often enough that having it in a dedicated sidebar is worth it.
I wish I had telemetry
I’m sure they do as Mozilla is an ad company
This is apparently either not widely known or some people just like to shoot the messenger.
- jwz, Jun.: Mozilla is an advertising company now
- jwz, Oct.: Mozilla’s CEO doubles down on them being an advertising company now
- Mozilla support: Share data with Mozilla to help improve Firefox
- Firefox documentation: Telemetry
While you are not wrong your dislike of Mozilla is has more to do with your instance being anti west. I’m not sure I’m ready to side with lemmyml
I happen to know jwz personally, and he knows Mozilla intimately: he founded it. His dislike of Mozilla is pretty much the same as mine, and he is neither “anti west” nor anti liberal. We dislike Mozilla because it has lost its way from being a FOSS browser maintainer and a booster for & steward of an open web.
And I’m not “anti-West,” I’m anti-capitalist, anti-settler-colonialist, and anti-imperialist; and those happen to be things that “the West” presently embodies.
“Your instance is anti-West” means that it endorses everything you listed as bad, as long as it’s from a nation that has enough red in its flag.
There’s no time like the present to switch instances.
I’m pretty sure I know what the instance I admin does & doesn’t endorse, thanks.
Oh, so it was just empty virtue signaling and hypocrisy? You’re welcome.
Sigh. I’m glad to have switched to LibreWolf.
I switched a while back before all the Ai and “privacy preserving” telemetry stuff.
Every update note I see for Firefox now just reinforces my decision.
Thing is, for your average user with no GPU and whp never thinks about RAM, running a local LLM is intimidating. But it shouldn’t be. Any system with an integrated GPU, and the more RAM the better, can run simple models locally.
The not so dirty secret is that ChatGPT 3 vs 4 isn’t that big a difference, and neither are leaps and bounds ahead of the publically available models for about 99% of tasks. For that 1% people will ooh and aah over it, but 99% of use cases are only seeing marginal gains on 4o.
And the simplified models that run “only” 95% as well? They can use 90% fewer resources give pretty much identical answers outside of hyperspecific use cases.
Running a a “smol” model as some are called, gets you all the bang for none of the buck, and your data stays on your system and never leaves.
I’ve been yelling from the rooftops to some stupid corporate types that once the model is trained, it’s trained. Unless you are training models yourself, there is no need for the massive AI clusters, just for the model. Run it local on your hardware at a fraction of the cost.
There’s the tragedy with this new feature: they fast-tracked this past more popular requests, sticking it into Release Firefox.
But they only rushed the part that connects to third parties. There was also a “localhost” option which was originally alongside the Big Five corporate offerings, but Mozilla ultimately decided to bury that one inside of the
about:configsettings.
I don’t understand the hate. It’s just a sidebar for the supported LLMs. Maybe I’m misunderstanding?
Yes, I would prefer Mozilla focus on the browser, but to me, this seems like it was done in an afternoon.
I want my browser to be a browser. I don’t want Pocket, I don’t want AI, I don’t want bullshit. There are plugins for that.
that’s the great thing: you don’t have to use it
But Firefox wastes time developing that instead of fixing 20 years-old bugs.
i know it is an unpopular opinion around here. but currently AI features open doors for sales. that is important.
for the software i help develop, we introduced an optional AI integration. just its presence allowed us to sell the main SW multiple times. the AI plugin was never sold so far.
investment AI: 2 weeks of gluecode. i am not concerned with finances, but that plugin is for sure net positive.
Do users like the AI integration, or is this just something the management class wanted to see? Right now, those clothes look crazy good on that emperor…
as someone who’s never dabbled with ai bots, what does this feature do? is it only to query for information like a web search?
It is a sidebar that sends a query from your browser directly to a server run by a giant corporation like Google or OpenAI, consumes an excessive amount of carbon/water, then sends a response back to you that may or may not be true (because AI is incapable of doing anything but generating what it thinks you want to see).
Not only is it unethical in my opinion, it’s also ridiculously rudimentary…
It gives you many options on what to use, you can use Llama which is offline. Needs to be enabled though about:config > browser.ml.chat.hideLocalhost.
There’s a huge difference between something that is presented in an easily accessible settings menu, and something that requires you to go to an esoteric page, click through a scary warning message, and then search for esoteric settings… Before even installing a server.
Nothing was compelling Mozilla to rush this through. In addition, nobody was asking Mozilla for remote access to AI, AFAIK. Before Mozilla pushed for it, people were praising them for resisting the temptation to follow the flock. They could have waited and provided better defaults.
Or just wedged it into an extension, something they’re currently doing anyway.
