• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Let’s make it more interesting. Name a place where communism has taken hold and has worked as intended without a ruling class and without resorting to human rights violations of their citizens

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      2 months ago

      China is the most democratic country on Earth, it has done nearly all of the poverty elimination that has occurred on this planet in the last fifty years, it has proven its ability time and time again to solve problems that vex capitalist regimes in humane and effective ways, it has proven to be resilient if not totally immune to the cyclical market shocks that every capitalist regime on the planet is regularly victim to, it has closed the technological gap and is now pulling ahead of the capitalist world in nearly every sector, its citizens are happier than the citizens of any other country and have the highest faith in their government institutions out of any other country…

      I could go on. But please tell me about TiAnAnMeN sQuArE and the UyGhUr GeNoCiDe like I haven’t heard those weak ass-arguments a million times.

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        2 months ago

        China is also extremely capitalist, but yeah it’s really easy to pretend how great it is there when you’re so willing to completely ignore all the reasons it’s not

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        2 months ago

        Why did you bring up China? Wasn’t involved in the conversation, doesn’t qualify as a communist nation, hasn’t claimed to be for a while actually.

        Sure China has done some impressive things but those two “weak-ass” arguments you brought up are neither weak nor small. China is an authoritarian state that abuses its people. You could unfortunately say that about many counties though.