• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I’m reading, Steam takes 30% cut, offer practically nothing but a download system, store front and crappy forum instances per game. Largely unchanged since 2012 Basically, they’re just taking the money and running, almost pure rent.

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      2 months ago

      Feel free to start a competitive game store. There’s a reason why gog, origin or epic hardly make a dent on Valves bottom line.

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          2 months ago

          Valve created a fantastic entertainment product that people voluntarily choose to use. Why would you want to turn something people already love into something completely different? Counterproductive - especially when direct distribution is essentially free and universally accessible.

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            2 months ago

            At this point steam is plain rent, coasting on their monopolistic platform power not any particular technical merit. It would be fine if valve spent this money on their userbase, but they don’t. All their other products are run for profit as well.

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              Stream created and maintains a platform that gamers and developers want to use but more importantly, they’ve built up a reputation that people believe in and trust.

              Gamers and developers are so eager to use steam because in all the years they’ve been operating, they still support and expand upon family sharing, have a fantastic refund policy (for consumers), don’t employ aggressive exclusivity deals, don’t limit download speeds behind paywalls, and provide a great review and recommendation system.

              They’ve become successful due to this reputation, why should we punish them for that?

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                2 months ago

                They’re an http download website that takes a 30% cut on the hard work of artists.

                That is already reprehensible, but not illegal.

                They also dominate their market and their competition is laughable.

                Now that is a properly punishable crime.

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    2 months ago

    I think people often hate steam for their success, but fail to see it’s the result of customers’choice in a free market. (I see it enough I’m not sure if people get paid to hate on them… To ruin the thing they have most of customer respect)

    Steam is not publicly traded and does not act like every other publicly traded company. It invests in its customers experience and custtomer come back for that. It does not nickel in dime or use its position to hold its customer captive and enshitfify its product. It’s not an ISP…

    It invests in hardware and software development it believes the industry needs not to make a massive profit but to be a champion of what gaming should be (Linux, steam link, index, bug picture, steam controller, steam deck) These products are experimental and usually sold at or near cost not to make money but to prove to the market there is a need and a demand.

    They are often a champion and voice of the gamer.

    They could have tried to be like Bethesda and tried to monetize their workshop but they didn’t.

    Sometimes they’re quiet and we don’t hear anything about what they’re working on, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t working on things.

    I can’t imagine pc gaming would have survived and resurged without steam. And I hate to think what it would be like if there were just 5 epics, origin, Uplay, whatever other launcher. I think gaming would look like mobile games…,… which takes a 30% cut too and can only sell in apple or android markets… No one bitches there and they offer no services.

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      2 months ago

      It’s not an ISP…

      Valve has AS number, so it is an ISP