• lorty@lemmygrad.ml
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    6 months ago

    I mean, Ukraine is losing. What kind of deal do you think they can negotiate?

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      6 months ago

      And what possible way has Ukraine lost this war?

      Russia’s goal was to topple Ukrainian government and see his complete control over the entire country in 3 days.

      Here we are, 3 years into the war and Russia has lost something like 14,000 vehicles, over half a million casualties, and what have they achieved exactly?

      Besides turtle tank technology of course.

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        6 months ago

        They are literally losing territory. They even lost Avdiivka earlier this year, one their biggest fortresses. Are you seriously arguing that they are somehow winning?

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        6 months ago

        Why do you believe Russia thought it would control all of UA in 3 days? That doesn’t match their actual military strategy, their stated goals, or their diplomatic behavior.

        Instead, all signs point to Russia looking to force an early diplomatic agreement that secured the Donbas, with the Kiev push acting as both a way to split UA’s resources and place pressure for agreement.

        This also roughly lines up with the Western intervention to prevent a diplomatic agreement within days of the invasion.