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    All people are doing is pointing out shitty things that Biden does. Perhaps he should stop doing those? I don’t know, it just sounds incredibly authoritarian. The way a lot of these neoliberals like yourself are acting like criticism is not allowed.

    It’s building up a massive amount of spite to moderates from progressives

    Edit : Downvote all you want, but all it’s doing is building up spite and not just me, but basically every other progressive. And then you completely don’t understand why you all are unpopular. Good luck winning the next election. Neoliberals well and truly suck.

    Pro tip, stop alienating your electorate. No wonder you guys like Biden so much. Birds of a feather. The party has gone absolutely mad and Its going to bite us all in the ass come election day. None of you are treating this election seriously enough as much as you seem hell bent on turning off progressives.

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      Edit : Downvote all you want, but all it’s doing is building up spite and not just me, but basically every other progressive.

      Funny. Every progressive I know is hell-bent on a Biden victory because, even though we’re all well to the left of the left-wing of the Democratic Party, much less some centrist like Biden, we aren’t ghouls who desire our fellow Americans to suffer under a fascist regime, especially not out of ‘spite’ over being downvoted on an internet forum.

      I always thought my experience with other progressives was the norm, but maybe there’s some evidence you’ve got that suggests otherwise.

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      All people are doing is pointing out shitty things that Biden does. Perhaps she should stop doing those? I don’t know, it just sounds incredibly authoritarian. The way a lot of these neoliberals like yourself are acting like criticism is not allowed.

      It’s building up a massive amount of spite to moderates.

      Yes, that is the position of the American moderate. Clearly, the American moderate is upset at stricter immigration policy.

      Have you talked to an American moderate in your life?

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      The reason the right keeps kicking the left’s ass is because they band together for their end goal instead of picking each other apart in an election year. I’ve been leftist my whole life, I’m no neo-liberal as you state just for seeing the truth of this election. What is your solution? Is pissing on Biden every chance going to do anything to fix these policies? If we get Trump, do you see immigration getting better? Biden is getting pummeled in the polls for his perceived weakness on the border. He lightened the rules after he won last time and Republicans have been crucifying him on border security since and it’s getting traction in polls. Sometimes in a democracy, you have to make some concessions to keep the power to make change in your hands. How far has the strategy of purism gotten the left? This country has swung so much further right due to leftist infighting losing us elections. Now we have a right wing candidate with a plan to straight up end democracy, but still we are calling each other “not leftist enough” instead of focusing on the real enemies of progressivism.

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        The solution is for Biden to stop putting his foot in his mouth at this critical moment. THAT is what I find so offensive about this whole ordeal.

        Its like you all have given up on that possibility, which makes defnsing him offensive.

        You know he sucks, but we just have to deal with it?