99.99 percent of people are just doing what they can.
Just about everything and everyone works for, with, or adjacent to a heinous company.
Everything is immoral, including your comment since you used a computer (which was unethically developed and manufactured, and since critical advancements in computing were sometimes made by bad people, it’s now impossible to create a truly harm free computer. This software (lemmy) is connected in some way to bad people, either its users, contributors, or the contributors to dependencies ( or the contributors to their dependencies, and so on).
Waxing on about how joe blow worked an office job that made someone rich so he could save 50 grand for his kid and how that makes him a bad person is just needlessly cruel.
No no, this is clearly a post apocalypse scenario… By that time only the .00001% will have any money to hand down to their kids… We can assume this is a corrupt billionaire
Money will always be a part of human culture because we need some kind of default monetary value that says you’ve contributed to the betterment of your fellow man in some way.
This won’t go away when we have cold fusion and a Dyson sphere lol.
Despite this, the vast majority of these people are typing from well off countries in areas that won’t be affected by the severe parts of climate change.
You know who mostly gets boned from climate change? Like, the literal worst climate change or severe nuclear winter. It’s not most Europeans, Americans, or Chinese I’ll tell you that lol.
Doomers are suckers who have eaten up propaganda meant to make the world worse through apathy and inaction. It’s worsened when they know they’re addicted to the internet but it’s easier to not care about their future and pretend everything is against them rather than try to better their and everyone’s lives somehow. It’s the bane of the mentally unwell, lazy, easily swayed, and non-curious.
Money will always be a part of human culture because we need some kind of default monetary value that says you’ve contributed to the betterment of your fellow man in some way.
I think this is just lacking in imagination. Why does everyone even need to contribute? If we survive along with our technology, we’ll eventually hit full automation for most tasks.
In a world like that, isn’t it enough to just live and be appreciated by someone? Why go around measuring contributions when only the very best and brightest could meaningfully contribute beyond sharing in the experience?
Because contributing in a utopia means living the shared experience by not hurting others.
A human system short of severe forced genetic manipulation will always require a visible way of showing that you’ve contributed.
That could mean making art all day. That could mean saying Hi to Grandma. It could mean getting a basic stipend for not being a criminal who hurts others.
Regardless, there will be a way to tell you who’s done more and who hasn’t. It doesn’t have to be money. It can be social credit ala China or more likely money just like it is now. That person WILL be selected to do something before the person in the basement doing nothing but synth-heroin. There will be a way to show to others around you that you are verifiably more deserving of something than another person is just through that fact that we live on a planet, solar system, or galaxy with finite resources and more importantly, finite time, and you’ve contributed unselfishly.
And by implementing such a system, you take from everyone. By tracking it, you cheapen it. You turn creativity towards making worthless kitche, you turn true moments of connection with Grandma into a chore to justify your own existence.
The solar system and beyond are finite, but not on a human scale. Even if we figured out cheap at-home immortality tomorrow, we’d never scratch the limits
Humans don’t breed infinitely. Already we’re coming up on that limit - the drive isn’t there anymore. We’re falling below replacement levels, partially because we’ve poisoned ourselves (and planet), but also just through lack of desire. It’s hardwired into mammals, if not all Earth life… We limit ourselves at a certain point
If you can’t see a future where you can just live without an accounting sheet justifying your existence, look to the past. They used money - not like us though
That kid is going to be extra grateful when his dad explains how much money he helped make the shareholders.
This is such an asshole take.
99.99 percent of people are just doing what they can.
Just about everything and everyone works for, with, or adjacent to a heinous company.
Everything is immoral, including your comment since you used a computer (which was unethically developed and manufactured, and since critical advancements in computing were sometimes made by bad people, it’s now impossible to create a truly harm free computer. This software (lemmy) is connected in some way to bad people, either its users, contributors, or the contributors to dependencies ( or the contributors to their dependencies, and so on).
Waxing on about how joe blow worked an office job that made someone rich so he could save 50 grand for his kid and how that makes him a bad person is just needlessly cruel.
So then why are you criticizing people demanding change?
Did they demand change or did they belittle their peers?
No no, this is clearly a post apocalypse scenario… By that time only the .00001% will have any money to hand down to their kids… We can assume this is a corrupt billionaire
More importantly it’s just not really true.
Money will always be a part of human culture because we need some kind of default monetary value that says you’ve contributed to the betterment of your fellow man in some way.
This won’t go away when we have cold fusion and a Dyson sphere lol.
Despite this, the vast majority of these people are typing from well off countries in areas that won’t be affected by the severe parts of climate change.
You know who mostly gets boned from climate change? Like, the literal worst climate change or severe nuclear winter. It’s not most Europeans, Americans, or Chinese I’ll tell you that lol.
Doomers are suckers who have eaten up propaganda meant to make the world worse through apathy and inaction. It’s worsened when they know they’re addicted to the internet but it’s easier to not care about their future and pretend everything is against them rather than try to better their and everyone’s lives somehow. It’s the bane of the mentally unwell, lazy, easily swayed, and non-curious.
Get ready for the Green washing comments lol.
https://concernusa.org/news/countries-most-affected-by-climate-change/
https://www.vox.com/22620706/climate-change-ipcc-report-2021-ssp-scenario-future-warming
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LxgMdjyw8uw
I think this is just lacking in imagination. Why does everyone even need to contribute? If we survive along with our technology, we’ll eventually hit full automation for most tasks.
In a world like that, isn’t it enough to just live and be appreciated by someone? Why go around measuring contributions when only the very best and brightest could meaningfully contribute beyond sharing in the experience?
Because contributing in a utopia means living the shared experience by not hurting others.
A human system short of severe forced genetic manipulation will always require a visible way of showing that you’ve contributed.
That could mean making art all day. That could mean saying Hi to Grandma. It could mean getting a basic stipend for not being a criminal who hurts others.
Regardless, there will be a way to tell you who’s done more and who hasn’t. It doesn’t have to be money. It can be social credit ala China or more likely money just like it is now. That person WILL be selected to do something before the person in the basement doing nothing but synth-heroin. There will be a way to show to others around you that you are verifiably more deserving of something than another person is just through that fact that we live on a planet, solar system, or galaxy with finite resources and more importantly, finite time, and you’ve contributed unselfishly.
And by implementing such a system, you take from everyone. By tracking it, you cheapen it. You turn creativity towards making worthless kitche, you turn true moments of connection with Grandma into a chore to justify your own existence.
The solar system and beyond are finite, but not on a human scale. Even if we figured out cheap at-home immortality tomorrow, we’d never scratch the limits
Humans don’t breed infinitely. Already we’re coming up on that limit - the drive isn’t there anymore. We’re falling below replacement levels, partially because we’ve poisoned ourselves (and planet), but also just through lack of desire. It’s hardwired into mammals, if not all Earth life… We limit ourselves at a certain point
If you can’t see a future where you can just live without an accounting sheet justifying your existence, look to the past. They used money - not like us though