• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    I said it doesn’t matter if the Nazis were right wing or left wing

    And you’re completely wrong. They absolutely were right wing, and teaching history accurately matters.

    The point being that just because in the past there were rotten apples in the left/right, it doesn’t mean that being in the left/right makes you a rotten apple.

    Except for one little thing: Republicans are calling for the eradication of vulnerable minorities and then pretending that they’re not acting like nazis and using the lie that nazis were left wing as justification.

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      Exactly, Republicans are using a fallacy. That is my whole point. Even if Nazis were left-wing, it is totally irrelevant. Both left and right can behave like Nazis.

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        Republicans, not the left, are currently calling for the eradication of vulnerable minorities. That’s nazi shit.

        Republicans are using a fallacy.

        Republicans are lying. They’re saying that Democrats are closer politically to nazis than they are, while they’re doin’ nazi shit.

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          Yes. Still, it is irrelevant if Nazis were left-wing or right-wing. Everyone knows Republicans always use fallacies in their arguments.

          But you’re falling victims to their fallacies by trying to show that the left is not associated with Nazis. Who cares if the Nazis were left-wing!!! That is totally irrelevant. Stop playing their game. If the past associations are relevant, then they could use the communist card and show what the left has done in other countries before, like North Korea.

          Stop playing their games.

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            Still, it is irrelevant if Nazis were left-wing or right-wing.

            I think it’s interesting that you keep saying this instead of “it’s irrelevant that nazis were right-wing.” You keep pretending that there’s doubt.

            Republicans always use fallacies

            You won’t even admit they’re lying.

            EDIT: And you keep ignoring that they’re doin’ nazi shit.

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              Holy crap man, how thick is your skull?

              1. they are lying.

              2. Nazis were right-wing.

              Are you happy? I can’t believe you were totally wooshed by such basic logic and you keep pushing that it is relevant if Nazis were right-wing or left-wing. No wonder Republicans are owning that country.

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                Nazis were right-wing.

                Took this much goading, and in the very next paragraph, you’re back to trying to pretend they might not be:

                if Nazis were right-wing or left-wing.

                nazis are right wing in all cases. Every time. Every last one.

                I can’t believe you were totally wooshed by such basic logic

                I mean, you’ve been repeating the same line over and over and confidently announcing that it’s logic. I’ve explained why it’s important to know that nazis are right wing.

                They were right wing when the allies liberated Europe from their putrescence in the 40s. They were right wing when they marched in Charlottesville in 2017. They’re right wing when they march in front of Disney World. They’re right wing when they protest drag shows. They’re right wing when they call for eradicating trans people at CPAC and Republicans cheer. nazis are always right wing.

                Accurate history matters.

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                  Accurate history doesn’t matter in this context because it is being used as a fallacy. The fact that the Nazis were right wing doesn’t make the right affiliated with Nazis. The same way leftist dictators don’t make the left affiliated with dictators.

                  The point of Republicans is that the left-wing is Nazi because the Nazis were left wing. That’s the fallacy. And instead of brushing that off as a fallacy, you’re falling victim to their games.

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                    fallacy.

                    And you’re back to not being able to say “lie.”

                    The fact that the Nazis were right wing doesn’t make the right affiliated with Nazis.

                    Nope, but all the nazi shit you keep ignoring every single time I mention it sure does.