So many ‘both sides are the same’ memes by Blue MAGA trying to voter shame like they do ever election year. We don’t live in a democracy, we haven’t in awhile. Another example of the plutocracy surfaced today…
So many ‘both sides are the same’ memes by Blue MAGA trying to voter shame like they do ever election year. We don’t live in a democracy, we haven’t in awhile. Another example of the plutocracy surfaced today…
40% emissions reductions by 2030
Not even remotely enough, good God this is what happens when the bar is on the floor, people just vomit out useless statistics like they’re actually making a difference
This part, I actually 100% agree with.
On the other hand, if the house is on fire, and one firefighter as soon as he gets on scene removes 40% of the gasoline from the garage even with a lot of people trying to fistfight him for doing that much, and the other firefighter says we have to get more gasoline in the house because taking away the gasoline is a Chinese plot to cripple our economy, I would feel comfortable saying that someone on Lemmy who is claiming the second firefighter is actually the superior firefighter is talking pure unadulterated weapons grade bollocks.
Okay, next one: Hundreds of billions of dollars worth of student loan forgiveness. Your turn, go!
I think we both agree that it’s not enough- where we disagree is how credible an alterative Biden is, because you’ve dramatically oversimplified things in his favor in your metaphor. I’m not going to torture that metaphor any further as a response because I’m opposed to unnecessary cruelty on general principle.
The reality is Biden has been the one continuing the Trump trade war shit on China. If this is really something you people are taking seriously why is he tariffing EVs and solar panels rather than doing whatever is necessary to meet our goals? I’m not exactly a free market girl, but American industry is not being served by these actions, and any subsidies handed to these industries immediately turn into stock buybacks. Something needs to fundamentally change and that’s off brand for you guys.
re: student loan shit, I also think that wasn’t enough because the ‘academic industry’ needs to be razed to the ground and nationalized. And yes that includes all the stupid ‘ivy leagues’
Do you think Trump is enough?
I mean, I don’t think Biden is enough either, but using that as an argument for why Trump is better is some Mr. Mxyzptlk logic.
That’s a good point; he spent hundreds of billions of dollars (which he raised by increasing corporate tax) on boosting domestic manufacturing adding like 700,000 manufacturing jobs last I checked, instead of continuing to have everything constructed abroad and rich middlemen keeping all the profits.
The WTO, if you remember those guys, was so angry about how he’s running his trade policy that they ordered him to change it back, and his State Department told them to piss up a rope we’re not changing a damn thing, representing one more big break he’s making with the neoliberal shit that is the recent history of the Democrats. It’s a good point, and I’m glad you brought it up.
I’ll believe that domestic manufacturing when I see it, frankly. Democrats are big on promising things which haven’t happened yet. Ie how you’re taking credit for lowering emissions 2-6 years into some future presidents term
Here ya go. It is, of course, a little more complex than I made it sound, but if I wanted to cherry-pick the sides of it that are good for Biden I’d say:
Not planning to respond to the other part, delving a little into why you’re claiming Trump is better exactly?
I’m not claiming Trump is better, they’re both genocidal, old, sex pests (being generous), and supported by their own legions of unquestioning followers.
It’s a good point - the very nature of Democratic politics, where a modest level of rebellion against Biden’s bad Israel policies can result in genuine change (although pretty tepid in comparison to what needs to happen). Things like pausing weapons shipments, sanctions on settlers, and setting up aid for Gaza does represent a significant structural difference between them and the Republicans, who are composed at this point pretty much of only “unquestioning followers” in your pretty accurate phrasing, would never have done anything like that, would have openly supported Netanyahu’s genocide instead of simply failing to prevent it, and are subject to only isolated hotspots of resistance even in the face of openly fascist or treasonous behavior.
For example, no Republicans resigned from the executive branch because of family separation, or moving the embassy to Jerusalem, or the catastrophic mismanagement of the Iran nuclear deal and the resulting suffering of the Iranian people. It’s a good reminder that even when Biden is doing terrible things (like supporting Israel), he’s still open to some level of influence from the non-terrible people, while Trump is not.
It’s a good point, and I’m glad you brought it up.