• Altofaltception@lemmy.world
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    Context:

    Number of whistleblowers: 2
    Number of dead whistleblowers: also 2

    Number of planes in the sky: thousands
    Number of planes that fell out of the sky: 2

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        There is 10 more or so according to an article I remember seeing an article on here the other day. I didn’t verify anything about it though.

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        Okay. So apparently there are 14 whistleblowers. 2 have died. 2/14 is approximately 14%.

        In comparison there are 14,830 Boeing aircraft currently in operation. 2 have fallen from the sky. That’s about 0.014%.

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          Interesting! Well all of it is too much. I hope Boeing can get it’s poop in a group - it used to be a great company.

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      Correction – Number of whistleblowers: at least 14, likely more

      This whole boeing whistleblower conspiracy theory is just silly. Now, the first one very well may have been killed by them, who knows? But the second one very clearly died of natural causes. He died of a MRSA infection after developing two common infections, influenza b and then pneumonia. Why would boeing go from plainly assassinating somebody, to then trying to kill somebody with influenza b, a usually easily survivable infection for somebody in his age range? Why wouldn’t they just assassinate him too? Everybody already thinks they did it, it’s not like they saved any face by using such an unlikely method. And how the hell did they even manage to do it?

      There is literally zero evidence whatsoever of this being an assassination, and yet half of lemmy seems to preach it like it’s the obvious truth. You’re all stuck in a conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This man could have been struck by lightning in broad daylight and you people would still find a way to blame it on boeing because of the circumstances.

      Also, I feel like, as I’m technically defending boeing here, I need to make it clear that I believe they’re a cartoonishly evil and horrible company. Fuck boeing. That doesn’t make the conspiracy true.

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        This whole boeing whistleblower conspiracy theory is just silly. Now, the first one very well may have been killed by them, who knows? But the second one very clearly died of natural causes.

        I actually agree that the second one is probably natural causes. But what timing!

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        Not to say that I’m leaning towards the conspiracy interpretation, but all those questions have somewhat plausible answers. So let me play the devils advocate here.

        Why would boeing go from plainly assassinating somebody, to then trying to kill somebody with influenza b, a usually easily survivable infection for somebody in his age range?

        Well if you conjecture that both deaths were indeed a murder then that means Boeing’s hitmen just fucked up the oldest trick in the book, making it look like a suicide. Makes sense to switch methods.

        Why wouldn’t they just assassinate him too? Everybody already thinks they did it, it’s not like they saved any face by using such an unlikely method.

        Plausible deniability. One whistleblower “suicide”? Suspicious. Two whistleblower “suicides” shortly after each other? Very suspicious. They may be an immensely powerful company, but that doesn’t mean they are entirely invincible.

        And how the hell did they even manage to do it?

        Maybe they just saw the victim being in the hospital with a naturally occurring influenza infection and helped an already likely secondary infection along, virtually guaranteeing a fatal outcome? Not sure how lethal MRSA is exactly, but doesn’t look all that friendly from a quick Wiki glance.

        Again, not that I’m saying this conjecture is true. But the circumstances and the timing of it all are just a bit too suspicious to not at least entertain the hypothesis. I mean it’s not exactly statistically relevant, but 2/14 is still a ridiculously high mortality rate for being a Boeing whistleblower.

        So people will speculate. Presumption of innocence is a law seldom obeyed in the court of public opinion. That doesn’t mean the conspiracy theory is either true or false.

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        Okay. So there are 14 whistleblowers. 2 have died. 2/14 is approximately 14%.

        In comparison there are 14,830 Boeing aircraft currently in operation. 2 have fallen from the sky. That’s about 0.014%.

        This shows that statistically it is safer to be a Boeing plane than to be a Boeing whistleblower.

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          I have three siblings. One of them has died. That’s a 33% death rate. This shows that statistically, being my sibling is one of the most dangerous things you can be in the world.

          100% of people that are born, die. Being born has a 100% death rate. Being born is the most deadly thing in the world.

          That’s not how statistics work. Your numbers are correct, your conclusion is not.

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      One of them died by suicide after confiding in a friend how not at all suicidal he was.

      The other died of a stroke… at 45 years old.