• AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Utterly unelectable is a weird way of describing someone who got 3M more votes than the other guy.

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      7 months ago

      Yeah, that electoral college sure jumped out at her suddenly, giving her only 227 years to prepare.

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        7 months ago

        Do you actually have a point or are you just a dick?

        Misjudging where to focus a campaign isn’t the same as being “utterly unelectable”.

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          7 months ago

          She was going to run a bad campaign no matter what. Her arrogance allowed for nothing else. Her shitty political instincts are what made her unelectable.

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      7 months ago

      And lost the election.

      Turns out there aren’t enough “enlightened centrists” to make up for alienating the democratic base.

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        7 months ago

        She lost because the electoral college is broken. That’s not the same as being “utterly unelectable”.

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          7 months ago

          Wasn’t her whole schtick that she knows politics better than anyone? She really should have seen that coming and campaigned in swing states

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        7 months ago

        It was Russia that tipped the scale, including by convincing traditionally democratic voters in key states to vote third party or not at all.

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            7 months ago

            And the sun was in her eyes, and there was a rock in her shoe, and the dog ate her homework, and…

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                I’m saying it’s an excuse. The right hate any Democrat. She had already lost the right, then went on to make her withering contempt of the left mutual.

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          Would not have been possible if the candidate was someone besides an unlikable, empty corporate suit who talked down to her base. Russian activity mostly focused on getting out right-wing troglodytes.

          Blame still is ultimately with Clinton and the Democratic establishment for failing to support a worthy candidate. The fact that she couldn’t even beat Donald Trump is the proof of her unelectability, regardless of interference.

          She would not be anymore electable today than she was before, because the demographics have changed forever and neoliberalism is politically bankrupt. It’s a dead end.

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            7 months ago

            She was by far the most qualified presidential candidate in history. You’ve fallen victim to a smear campaign, but are blissfully unaware of it.

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              It’s really insulting being told that my opinion is the result of a smear campaign.

              I witnessed the smear campaign. It was unfair. I still didn’t like her.

              Then I’m repeatedly fucking lectured that an embattled former First Lady, two term Senator, one term Secretary of State was the MOST QUALIFIED EVER candidate. Being embattled and disliked isn’t as great an asset as you want to think, especially when you LOSE.

              No, she fucking wasn’t. And the insistence that she was really hurt her chances because a mythology was being built up around her rather than presenting her as an honest, straightforward candidate.

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              She was by far the most qualified presidential candidate in history.

              She was uniquely qualified to lose to trump.

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              Yeah no. She was a status quo neoliberal who is emblematic of Democratic “centrism” that has enabled the right to push the US to the point it is right now without raising a finger to oppose it.

              Even now, the moron is telling voters to “get over themselves”. That’s not competence, that demonstrates a deeply narcissitic arrogance and an inability to take ownership of your own failures.

              There is no “smear campaign”, the idiot smeared herself.

              I do not want someone that dishonest and tone deaf near the levers of power.