I’m part of a small group of Jr Self Taught Web Developers who were recently brainstorming ideas for a Group Project App we could put together and actually create a user base.
I offered up the suggestion of a podcast application which would have the major feature of being akin to YouTube Sponsor Block, but specifically for podcast episodes.
Essentially, a user contributed database of timestamps for podcast episodes where the mention of cutting to sponsored ads or mentions of sponsorships would be marked so they could be edited out of the episode and then the user could also download said episode where ads are cut out of the final audio file.
My idea was shot down due to fears of possibly infringing on copyright and we ended up with going with another idea. I’m certainly not upset, and am actually excited with the project idea we did choose, but it did get me wondering about whether this idea actually could have legal implications.
I know specifically with YouTube there appears to be a sort of legal loophole that prevents Google from suing projects like invidious, yt-dlp, and YouTube Sponsor Block, but am unaware of the specific details as to how this works.
Thusly, I just wanted to ask if anyone has any insights into whether this project idea would incur any legal infractions from the likes of IheartRadio and other media platforms?
To be clear, I’m not seeking legal advice here, and I’ll be taking any responses with a grain of salt, but I just wanted to see if anyone knows anything on this subject and the legal concerns raised.
I very much dislike being advertised to and podcasts are one of the last bastions of media where advertisements still come up regularly and I’d love to make this application for those who are frustrated with how often they have to skip through sponsor mentions.
Thanks in advance.
Legally there are no issues as long as the download option directly downloads from the original host where your application then cuts out the ads. Blocking ads is not illegal. It is neither copyright infringement nor piracy. It might break the ToS but that is ultimately not illegal, and may also be circumventable if carefully implemented.
Invidious does not break the youtube ToS because it doesn’t use the youtube API that the ToS is applied to. Same with Grayjay.
speaking of grayjay, how is it? I remember it releasing and then heard a whole lot of nothing after the fact, is it a solid client? I’d love something like vanced that doesn’t require a whole bunch of fiddling to achieve a similar featureset
I stopped using revanced in favor of Grayjay. It is an excellent app. It was initially a bit buggy, but not anymore. But don’t get the playstore version. Download it directly to get all plugins.
Really good app, I havnt had many issues with it and I have been using it since as soon as it was available for download
I’ve listened to an Invidious Developer talk about why Google is unable to sue the Invidious developers (even though apparently they have wanted to). Apparently they web scrape the data, but I still don’t know how they manage to actually get the Videos if not through the Youtube API? Any clarification on how this is done would be greatly appreciated, if only solely for my own curiosity’s sake.