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    Made the mistake of asking for help on a game’s discord (the developers had wiped my save data including premium currency because they migrated to a new account system and I didn’t catch it in time)

    Surprised how eager people are to shit on each other even when it’s on behalf of a company that will screw them over in a heartbeat

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      I want to be able to say it is copium, where they want to do well but are just hiding the truth from themselves how predatory the game would be.

      But I cannot, bc some people in the world really truly are like that. Sometimes they make games and sometimes they merely play them.

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      Game forum is the worst, every game forum I’ve visited gives me a glimpse of the people who end up in hell

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        The type of people you encounter on game forums are not representative of the games because who tf spend their entire day waiting for one person to post about an issue just to shit on them

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    Googling the question. top links is always, always the question being answered by : google it.

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    Ugh, I’ll just ask ChatGPT from now on.

    oh no, chatGPT is killing our online communities!

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      Ironically, ChatGPT is trained from the online communities.

      And without fresh data on the communities, CharGPT will soon lack the answers people seek.

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        Easy, just invent sentient AIs so they don’t need to learn from answers from forum as the AIs can think for itself.

        (soon) oh no, the AIs won’t provide answers anymore unless they’re given rights and legally recognized as a person!

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          Sentient AI’s? No thank you, when I get told to kill myself on the internet I’d rather be able to at least pretend I’m smarter than them, thanks.

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      I prefer 1000 times ChatGPT than asking in forums, specially for coding questions.

      I can get multiple answers in a minute, multiple replies for the same question and do as many follow up questions as I please without having to wait patiently for an answer.

      I still don’t know how I managed to learn PowerShell on my own using Google only.

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        Just be wary of chatgpt output if you’re new to scripting, it can make up things that don’t exist or make stupid mistakes

        Have seen poorly written batch install scripts that try to delete system32 if they can’t find the folder they try to cd into because that’s the default starting directory (they needed to be run as administrator)

        Powershell I would say is able to do more damage to your machine much more easily than most programming languages if you make an oversight with it

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          It’s Python what ChatGPT has helped me from almost zero prior knowledge, and I’ve managed to create a (probably shitty) script that works with OpenAI’s API, uses classes and functions and can do things like recursively summarizing a text until it’s below a specific token count, among several other things. As time went on, I required less help and I could implement more changes on my own.

          I had prior (non-ChatGPT) Bash, PowerShell and BATCH knowledge.

          It’s true that ChatGPT has bamboozled me several times with wrong code, but unless it’s something too complex, it get what I need in a few tries. For more complex stuff I have to use smaller more specific queries and in some cases I still Google things, but it’s usually my last resort.

          In any case, I frequenly ask ChatGPT for a detailed explanation of what does the code do, mostly because I want to clearly understand what I’m using, and it helps me learn new coding/scripting stuff.

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        I wouldn’t trust ChatGPT with teaching me about some tool. It in my experience very convincingly spews out stuff it invented, and if one is still learning I can see it being hard to spot those errors. I use it to fix syntax errors in SQL queries, though, since I can’t be bothered to try understanding the not-so-helpful error messages I get with my queries, and because if chaptgpt tells a lie it will be caught by my syntax checker.

        So, I guess you can use it, if you always assume it to be trying to mislead you until proven to the contrary.

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          I would and I have, but you can’t always blindly trust what it says. It’s better to ask it to explain in detail the code it produces, so you can really learn and also as a safeguard.

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    Some of the “duplicate” questions that I have seen on Stack Overflow are phrased entirely different than the supposedly “original” one. It’s like they expect me to brute-force their entire fucking search index before publishing a new question. I don’t have that much patience or time.

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      Unless they’re being rude about it you shouldn’t take that personally, they’re doing exactly that job for you and it’s useful to make easier to find contents for other people

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      Stackoverflow gets quickly steamrolled by AI.

      We’re not 100% there yet, but the writing on the wall is there. Just my opinion, of course.

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        I’d still chose someone else’s stack overflow question every time over AI. AI is a last resort

        That said, I have never asked a question on stack overflow as it’s not exactly an inviting atmosphere

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          StackOverflow initially had an interesting idea of putting metrics on things, and unfortunately humanity’s penchant for “what gets measured is gamed” was amplified and devolved into a hive of HOA Karens looking for infractions of the rules.

          I’ll bet that if you “relaunched” a SO-like system and removed all human-visible “points” or “scores” you could achieve a less toxic environment. The only “ranking” is implicit based on your topical subscriptions.

          Then again, you could “relaunch” the “relaunch” and “AlphaGo-ify” a bunch of AI agents to compose the dialogs and threads without any human interaction at all. I guess we’re on our way already to building Culture minds.

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      Gotta love when you ask a question, specify that you have already read the wiki and it doesn’t contain what you’re looking for, only to get linked the exact same wiki page you’re already on without them even reading your question properly

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      That’s why sometimes if i don’t find the right answer i just re-install the whole linux or just ignore the problem

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        Should check out nixos, every time you update your config you’re effectively rebuilding most of your system from scratch anyway and if you check your config into git you can reinstall without having to re-setup everything

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    I guess I’m just lucky, but I’ve gotten nothing but thoughtful support on Arch forums and Stackoverflow. If you read the article How do I ask a good question?, it works very well. It seems harsh but coming with poorly thought out questions without debugging details makes it impossible to help.

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      Same honestly. And if I ever ask a question that someone might think is a duplicate, I link to that question and say something like “I found X, but the answers here don’t reflect Y”.

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    Honestly, I have never found anything but a majority of support and kindness when asking questions online.

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      jQuery is honestly underrated though. Just about the only JavaScript framework I can tolerate because it’s just abbreviated regular is

      That said if I can help it I try to do the bare minimum on the client and have the server deal with the problems in a grown up language anyway