• abbotsbury@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago
    • Leaning too heavily into Israel and siding with genocide.

    • Leaning too heavily against, and being accused of being pro-Hamas.

    So the choices are siding with genocide, and merely being accused of being pro-Hamas?

    Seems like a clear choice, since accusations of being pro-Hamas get flung around for merely wanting to genocide Palestinians just more slowly.

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      8 months ago

      The caveat being missed here is that aid to Israel is also contingent on their defense. If the long-time precedent for aid to Israel is withdrawn and more Jews die, how do you think that is going to bode for the votes of — let me check — 7.6 million Jewish Americans? Trump gets in, and then what? Biden fails the purity test and everyone critical of Biden pats themselves on the backs as Trump steamrolls Palestinians not just indirectly but directly?

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        Vote for genocide, because if you don’t there’s gonna be more genocide. Y’all doing backflips to cover your violent beliefs.

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          Ah yes, that’s a completely accurate and fair description of the choice at hand and totally 100% not an obvious straw-man fallacy, leaving aside the cute little purity pyrrhic victory you’re setting yourself up for.

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            It’s very easy for me to be against genocide. Seems hard for you. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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              I’m completely for being against genocide!

              I’m just forward-thinking and very much against it for the next 4 years, let alone next 8 months. Some people see a few more chess-moves ahead than others, I guess. Seems hard for you.

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          actually,there wouldn’t be anymore genocide had the 2 state solution been accepted.

          i mean to hamas, peace is shit but death is an honor.