• Anekdoteles@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    Funny, how you make it sound liberal to grant extra rights to people as long as they are small in numbers.

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      8 months ago

      “extra rights” being what? the right to immigrate? people should be allowed to live where they choose. you almost certainly could live and work in a European nation without being forced to leave in the way these people are. just because you don’t think of that as a right doesn’t mean it isn’t one.

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        8 months ago

        No. People live where they belong and if they don’t have a especially good reason to be here they go home.

        They didn’t flee war and they where to go back regardless. They can immigrate normally like everyone else, why should they get special treatment?

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          8 months ago

          why should they get special treatment?

          Have you tried empathy? Just put yourself for a moment in their (those students) shoes and you will understand where people who are arguing with you are coming from.

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            8 months ago

            I have logic and see that they would get treated differently than the others coming from their countrys, wich is unfair. Their shoes are just shoes like everyone elses are, they do not deserve a special treatment because that would be unfair for everyone else. They had 2 years to apply for citizenship or international student, those that didn’t do that, go home.

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              8 months ago

              I get where you are coming from. I just explain to you where the other people, you seem to not understand, are coming from. They have compassion for their fellow human beings who got in a shitty situation to no fault of their own (war).

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        8 months ago

        people should be allowed to live where they choose.

        I’m not sure if I agree, neither do I strongly disagree. Even though individuals should be allowed to live where they want, communities should also be allowed to decide who they allow to live with them. Collective decisions are the very foundation of a community and what differentiates it from an agglomeration of individuals. Please take into consideration how the latter one would be authoritarian by nature. So, I think both rights are true - that of the individual to freely move and that of the community to build something exclusively for itself - and neccessary for a liberal society. They have to be balanced out carefully.

        you almost certainly could live and work in a European nation without being forced to leave in the way these people are

        You are right. I am a citizen auf the European Union and hence part of a sovereign community.