So I had a verbal conversation with a coworker yesterday and now I’m getting fed very specific ads. No possible way it’s accidental. I have most of the microphone access to apps limited, I have Google assistant turned off and no VPA setup in my home. I use a Oneplus 9 pro, does anyone have recommendations on how to further root cause this or just par for the course for using any standard android OS? Have other folks had similar experience after locking down their stock phones?

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      10 months ago

      Because human observations are notoriously unreliable. Show me data.

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          10 months ago

          Facebook isn’t randomly turning on your microphone to sell you more targeted ads, as some conspiracy theories have asserted

          the company admitted that it had been employing third-party contractors to transcribe the audio messages that users exchanged on its Messenger app.

          They’re using data that people sent to their servers. If they were turning on peoples mics and sending the recordings to themselves then anyone that monitors their network traffic at all would notice all of that data being uploaded.

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      10 months ago

      Probably because no one has any proof other than anecdotal evidence. And the vast majority of times it’s looked into it’s because the person reporting it doesn’t understand how else their information is collected (i.e. web searches, intranet data for other people, browsing histories, etc.)

      Look at it this way, is it more likely that the majority of security researchers that look into it, find nothing, and deem these use cases as inefficient and improbable, are wrong; OR is it more likely that data collectors builds good profiles, mixed with some Baader-Meinhof, a little Dunning-Krueger, and a lot of coincidence?

      Not everything is a big conspiracy, nuance is neccesary, or the sky will always be falling.

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        I mean if you want to deny the sky is blue when plenty of experience says otherwise that’s on you.

        I agree that it would be very inefficient to send voice recordings, and those would be easy to pick out with some packet sniffing.

        But a locally processed txt file of keywords would be such a small amount of encrypted data that it would easily pass under the nose of any security researcher and they would have no idea unless it was decrypted.

        So no, this is not debunked.

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      10 months ago

      There is a chance I guess he went off and researched the topic and our relations are tethered on googles back end so it figured I might be interested in his interests. But I’m stretching here. I should ask him on Monday!