• Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    It makes them feel better to think it’s just online leftists doing purity politics rather than a deeply angered population who have been giving him every opportunity to turn away from this and mostly just treated as an inconvenience.

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      9 months ago

      It’s either online purity politics or damn near zero understanding of consequences.

      “I don’t like what Biden didn’t do for Palestinias, I’m going to help someone who would be way worse for Palestinians! Yay!”

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        9 months ago

        If I shoot your son and explain credibly why the other guy would have also shot your daughter, that’s a cold comfort.

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            9 months ago

            I’m explaining why people don’t want to choose either, because both of them will kill their children.

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              9 months ago

              Unfortunately, failing to choose means choosing the worse option.

              Though, had all the young pro Palestine leftists bothered to show up during the 2020 or 2016 primaries, there might be a more progressive president and thus a better set of choices. Unfortunately, showing up to the primaries seems anathema to the under 30 crowd, hence, two terrible choices.

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                9 months ago

                You may not like it, but that’s democracy- even progressive people you wish would vote for Biden might not, even if it means trump wins. Some of them are accelerationists who will vote for Trump directly, no matter how ill advised that may be.

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                  9 months ago

                  And that’s their right!

                  BUT, to complain about the effects of their own choices is absurd.

                  “I made a conscious decision to not vote progressive and now a centrist politician is enacting centrist policies with entirely predictable outcomes! How could this have happened?!?”

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                    9 months ago

                    Luckily the people in this article are making their voices heard, looking for a more progressive option. I think people will complain no matter who gets voted in, especially if a person they didn’t vote for won. But I don’t know that people who are voting against Biden because of Palestine will wish he had won if trump wins, I think they might wish Biden had taken this hint and acted differently, but that’s not the same thing.

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      9 months ago

      People have outright stated to me that they are doing purity politics. While I cannot prove that every single person I suggest is likely doing so, is actually doing so, I am not making such claims in a vacuum.

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        9 months ago

        You took a handful of anecdotes from your online life and decided “I understand the electorate”? Do you think ~15% of Michigan is online leftists?

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          9 months ago

          Any excuse necessary to continue support for genocide. It’s interesting to see the very first policy centrists don’t immediately abandon when they encounter pressure.

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          9 months ago

          I took a handful of anecdotes from my online life and decided that people I encounter online have a decently high probability of being more examples of the same thing.