I believe the rules wouldn’t apply. Usually when a company is asked to provide data and they refuse they are forced to shut down. But since Lemmy is decentralized, I believe if the cops were to ask someone to provide the IP of a user, they can just say no and shut down the server at least temporarily, and then possibly bring it back up under a new domain and ip.
IANAL but withholding evidence from a court order can hold you in contempt of court. I remember hearing a story of a person who was accused of having CSAM on an encrypted hard drive, and refused to decrypt it, and is in jail until he decrypts it. Just because you’re a person doesn’t mean you can ignore a warrant.
information itself is a liability. best to have a policy of ‘we keep no IPs in logs, so are happy to hand over whatever’… dump data the moment you dont require it
yeah, this sounds like a much more sustainable solution. Do it the way signal does it. Collect as little as necessary, and delete it as soon as you dont need it.
I looked into that guy somewhat recently, he was in jail for something like five years then eventually released. Kind of a sickening situation all around.
With the federation does that also mean that the ip records are replicated? Because that would be a lot of parties that can be threatened, with only one required to give in…
I believe the rules wouldn’t apply. Usually when a company is asked to provide data and they refuse they are forced to shut down. But since Lemmy is decentralized, I believe if the cops were to ask someone to provide the IP of a user, they can just say no and shut down the server at least temporarily, and then possibly bring it back up under a new domain and ip.
IANAL but withholding evidence from a court order can hold you in contempt of court. I remember hearing a story of a person who was accused of having CSAM on an encrypted hard drive, and refused to decrypt it, and is in jail until he decrypts it. Just because you’re a person doesn’t mean you can ignore a warrant.
information itself is a liability. best to have a policy of ‘we keep no IPs in logs, so are happy to hand over whatever’… dump data the moment you dont require it
yeah, this sounds like a much more sustainable solution. Do it the way signal does it. Collect as little as necessary, and delete it as soon as you dont need it.
Just store what logs you need on a ram drive. The logs will be gone the instant the server shuts down and there is no way to recover them.
Downsides include : if any intrusion happens on the server, red team just needs to reboot it to wipe evidence.
If they have the root access typically needed to reboot a server1 they could also just wipe the logs without rebooting.
1: GUIs typically have a way to reboot without such privileges, but those are typically not installed on machines just used as servers.
I looked into that guy somewhat recently, he was in jail for something like five years then eventually released. Kind of a sickening situation all around.
Good to know. They should implement no log policies then
Imagine contempt of court but you don’t live in the US
With the federation does that also mean that the ip records are replicated? Because that would be a lot of parties that can be threatened, with only one required to give in…
I could be wrong, but I believe you only disclose your IP to your Lemmy instance.