Our kids will be really ashamed of us.
Short term profits are way more important than the future of our kids I guess.
I’m already ashamed of us. I have a hard time walking the fine line between preparing my children for a difficult future and raising kids who know happiness.
Of course we did bro, AI (or at least, the current use of the term) is here and no multinational conglomerate gives a fuck about the environment any more
Oh how I wish it really was.
there are people who literally believe in magic and avoid guilt in all capacities in favor for an afterlife free of repercussions
stop the proliferation of ideologies that support fairytale images of uniqueness and pursuit of boundless wealth, they lead to the most ugly behavior towards all other animals including other humans
Yeah they’re changing course… To go upwards even faster. 🤦♂️
Even if it wasn’t already too late, the oligarchs profiting from the demise of the planet are in full control of information sources and politicians worldwide. The only way the planet survives is if humanity is wiped out through a global incurable plague at this point.
We have nobody but ourselves to blame for the reckoning that is coming after decades of voting against our own interests and choosing convenience of fossil fuels over the environment.
The problem is capitalism
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Consumer-capitalism. Neither is great, but their combination is truly horrifying.
I’ve always liked Antonio Gutteres. While a politician, he has been the most honest of them when it comes to climate change.
Yeah sure, tell that to the billionaires that are actively ruining the planet.
The good news is that it is still something we can deal with. I mean, to just give up is to let the current “owners of the world win” ( billionaires and gang).
And how do we stop those billionaires?
The way that I see it, they won’t stop by themselves. We either get politicians to finally stop them (highly doubtful) or the world citizens stop them by force.
What other solution is there?
I mean honestly a fundamental restructuring of democracy in the US. We need a 3rd party in the US that can hijack the Democratic party apparatus without falling victim to its trappings in order to crack the first-past-the-post system; without that, capital has the oppressive power of the top 5 most funded militaries in human history. The US squats on any country that even thinks of not playing nicely with capital, and without that there can be no resistance to climate change.
Beyond that, you really just need to prepare. Blah blah, mutual aid, community defense, etc. I’m not gonna bore you with what you know, just reiterate that it WILL help when shit hits the fan. I guarantee you when your kids are getting conscripted into the water wars, you’re gonna want to have enough community presence to push back.
A third party?
How about thirty parties?
Hahahahahahahaha
World is too busy deciding whether to kill minorities or tax the rich an extra few percent to make any progress on this.
We desperately need a socialist revolution.
No we don’t.
What we really need is people to stop fantasizing about spherical revolutions in frictionless societies and do the boring, unfun, hard things that actually make a difference.
It requires people not doing nothing until magically the perfect thing comes along and realizing they’ll have to wade through and actively support shit, until they’ve successfully reformed or composted said shit into something that is finally able to grow the first leafs of anything resembling a society they want.
I’m just so tired of people rejecting the facts of the political systems they live under in order to pretend to chase some other system they won’t see within their life time.
We have to pick the least bad option and then try to make them better because that’s just the way shit works. Acknowledging that doesn’t mean you are complicit or any other such nonsense in the same way acknowledging climate change doesn’t mean you don’t want a climate that isn’t rapidly deteriorating.
“But if x, y, and z people just…” yeah well they won’t, and we know they won’t, so we have the constraints we have.
Not super directed at you, I’ve just been seeing entirely too many naive, in my opinion, fake socialists that seem to only value socialism as far as they can use it as a weapon to brandish against liberals and other socialists who simply see reality and acknowledge that doing anything requires getting your hands dirty.
The “boring, unfun, hard things that actually make a difference” have already been tried in the last 50 years. It has not made a difference. The only thing that can make a difference, as history has shown us time and time and time again, is a revolution
If you can’t see the difference where we have gay marriage, for a while had notably less discrimination, a massive improvement in workers rights, improvements to social security nets etc, I don’t know what to tell you.
More than that, this childish opinion misses that you haven’t tried this.
You’ve constantly swapped between democrats and republicans, and purity tested so hard that democrats have basically stopped seeing you as a real force for change within their party.
You have only tore down your chances while actual progressives keep trying, only to be disappointed that you’re there as a roadblock to your shared goals.
To top this all off, you clearly do not understand that you not only need 3 of 4 branches of government and definitely need a super majority senate (Which you haven’t had usably in 25 years) but you also need enough progressives within the party to sway their goals away from just the wishes of their corporate donors.
You want to pretend that we have tried this, but we haven’t tried jack shit, because of folks like you.
More than that, you haven’t tried any other method either, so your comment ends up boiling down to “lets try nothing because I don’t like, nor do I want to try the ‘boring, unfun, hard things that actually make a difference’”
We have to pick the least bad option and then try to make them better because that’s just the way shit works
No we don’t, and no it isn’t. That’s how the suppression of radical change works. I am not saying that anything short of utopia is not worth pursuing, just that I don’t see why we shouldn’t start from that and then work down to a realistic compromise, rather than starting from the bad options that are given to us. There are other choices, if you can look further than your nose.
No we don’t, and no it isn’t. That’s how the suppression of radical change works.
You aren’t doing jack shit of this radical change you spout on about. You don’t actually want to help, so you come up with excuses to do nothing while feeling better than those who do because your ideas all start with someone else moving first.
I am not saying that anything short of utopia is not worth pursuing, just that I don’t see why we shouldn’t start from that and then work down to a realistic compromise
Because you don’t have the leverage or organization to start there. Instead you must start by slowly working to put out the fire and getting your fellow countryman to see the benefits of socialist policy.
rather than starting from the bad options that are given to us.
You exist in this system, not outside of it. You start here for that is reality, not fantasy. Id love to start from the position of being the rich using my wealth to sway policy. It’s not reality though.
There are other choices, if you can look further than your nose.
List one that doesn’t start with some fantastical revolution you aren’t organizing and aren’t willing to risk your life in as a first mover
If the answer is about forming a new party in a country that has winner takes all or first past the post, I fear you’ve not thought it through.
We’re talking about a socialist revolution here. The electoral process of the capitalist rulers of the United States is hardly relevant.
Its completely relevant to anyone who isn’t a child.
You can’t magically have this whimsical revolution you dream of.
Its 100% a “you first” type of deal where you absolutely are not willing to be first, and don’t realize you have a whole lot of the population you’d need to convince first, and until you do, you need to face the hard realities of the system you live in, and mitigate the damage.
You aren’t doing jack shit of this radical change you spout on about. You don’t actually want to help, so you come up with excuses to do nothing while feeling better than those who do because your ideas all start with someone else moving first.
Uh, source? Do I know you?
Because you don’t have the leverage or organization to start there. Instead you must start by slowly working to put out the fire and getting your fellow countryman to see the benefits of socialist policy.
The leverage is numbers. 8 billion humans against what, a stadium of people? And the organization at this point is just basic survival instinct?? We’re on a burning planet and being told that yes we need change, but we also need to wageslave while doing it. I do agree on the “teaching” part btw.
You exist in this system, not outside of it. You start here for that is reality, not fantasy. Id love to start from the position of being the rich using my wealth to sway policy. It’s not reality though.
The system is something that monkeys invented. I “exist in it” in the sense in the sense that I am contemporary to it, yes. I exist in what you could call the universe, nature, or reality.
List one that doesn’t start with some fantastical revolution you aren’t organizing and aren’t willing to risk your life in as a first mover
Nice try glowie. I just know what has already happened in the past and can try to extrapolate. And again, I don’t know what basis you have to speak of my character.
If the answer is about forming a new party in a country that has winner takes all or first past the post, I fear you’ve not thought it through.
Jesus christ, is that the most radical, outside-of-the system take you could think of for global policy change?
Guys. Chill. The world will be fine. The planet will go on.
Humanity, on the other hand, is fucked.
Humanity, on the other hand, is fucked.
We deserve it
Wouldn’t it be nice if we weren’t ruled by psychopathic idiots, and this might have actually made a difference?
Best hope rn is the solar panels from China that every country from African to Pakistan are able to install and use less fuel
Sure blame politicians for the fact that people are going into deeper and deeper debt to buy bigger and bigger trucks.
The world is being run by conservatives and fascists.
The world will not change course, humanity is borked.
