Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz
You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There’s much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
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Locking, thread has spireled wildly off topic.
Also, it defaults to “Active” view, which is the least updated. You can set your posts to “Hot” and then switch between “Top 6 Hours” and “Top 12 Hours” to get the most of your experience here. It will seem dead with the default.
I usually sort by new comments. Sometimes you’ll see 1 year old post still active in the comments. It’s neat
Game changer
I still wish there was a better sort algorithm. Nothing compares to Reddit’s front page algorithm. I usually cycle between hot and top 12 hours.
I think it is good that we don’t have reddits front page algorithm. I want to stay in charge of curating my feed and prefer there not to be intransparent fuckery in the background.
I want to know that a post with 850 upvotes has indeed been upvoted by 900 accounts and downvoted by 50 accounts, instead of some weird calculations up- or downscaling it.
intransparent
Opaque?
I checked a translator. In my main language intransparent is the typical term to mean the opposite of transparency in the context of actions of politicans, institutions, etc. The word seem to exist in English but not really used like this.
How would you refer to something, where the information is withheld, even though it should be available information to legitimize the way something is handled, i.e. a government agency?
Your English is excellent. I think intransparent works, though it might have the tendency to sound somewhat delicate, as if you needed to avoid saying a simpler antonym, which has the funny side-effect of making you sound like an intellectual or a similar type of advanced speaker.
Yeah I understood what you meant by “intransparent” but it’s not something I’ve ever heard anyone say. “Opaque” is the opposite of the literal meaning of transparent, e.g. a window is transparent, a wall is opaque.
To describe information not being shown I’d probably say obfuscated, opaque, or maybe just hidden.
Wait, what’s wrong with Hexbear? I’m new to Lemmy and read the code of conduct and TOS of Hexbear and it just seems like they’re leftist? I was thinking about registering there 😅
Lemmy can be a bit of a culture shock when you come from Reddit. If someone calls you a libtard on Reddit, it’s because they think you’re a leftist. If someone calls you one on Lemmy, it’s because they think you’re too far to the right of them.
Sooo are the users over at Hexbear considered libtards over here on Lemmy?
Nooo the users on Hexbear are the ones calling others libs for being too far to the right. Though I don’t know how prolific libtard is, just because of the ableism.
That makes so much more sense. Thank you for the insight!
No, the opposite; They’re so far left that leftists aren’t left enough.
If someone calls you a libtard it’s because they’re an ableist POS, and probably a larping conservative.
The proper term for “centrists” from leftists is “shitlib.”
And you wonder why your type are considered insufferable.
Leftists are just jealous that liberals get into office pretty consistently.
When r/chapotraphouse got banned they moved to what is now hexbear. If you didn’t like r/cth you won’t like hexbear, and lots of folks don’t like r/cth.
So here’s the thing… im so new i have no idea what r/chapotraphouse is
Fair and valid, and I envy your brain. They were a shitposter sub on reddit, sorta based on the dirtbag podcast of the same name. They were criticized for brigading and dog piling folks they disagreed with, and largely have a mentality of treating what they see as bad faith with mockery.
All that being said, if you think memes about China taking over the US is funny, they are a fun, active community. Though using it as your primary instance can be a big of a difficulty because lots of other instances block them.
Really I’ve found lemm.ee to be a good home, and you can still see all the posts there and see if it clicks for you.
For right now lemm.ee is my home! I was just looking at the other instances to see if their ideologies better fit mine.
To be clear, I self-identify as liberal, and i am trans. I noticed the c/traaaaa… community on Hexbear seems to be the biggest of the bunch, and that was my favorite sub on reddit, so I started looking in to Hexbear
Blahaj.zone is an instance created by and for trans and queer people, but I think Hexbear beats them in sheer numbers due to instance size. At least go check out /onehundredninetysix, which is the recreation of /196 after the /196 blahaj.zone mods tried to move to Lemmy.world. It had a lot of people pissed, mods had a bad “the users don’t own this community, we do” attitude about it, and eventually /onehundredninetysix was created.
Hexbear’s mods have historically been very strict regarding transphobia so lots of trans people have seen it as a friendly place. I think there was also a migration from blahaj to Hexbear when someone was banned from blahaj for refusing to use the pronouns “drag/drag” for a person who self-identified as a dragon. It was like watching the “I identify as an Apache attack helicopter” meme play out in realtime, and a lot of blahaj users weren’t comfortable with it.
Hexbear has the largest amount of trans people on one instance as far as I can tell. Lemmy.blahaj.zone is more specifically for trans and queer people, and the admin is trans herself. Lemmy.blahaj.zone is federated with most other instances while many have defederated hexbear because they don’t like when trans people get too uppity. On lemmy.blahaj.zone we are considered the “good ones” or the more acceptable trans people by the other instances because this instance is less partisan/politically opinionated. Not a great situation, but the result is this instance is more widely federated.
Very interesting. I’ll check out lemmy.blahaj.zone as well! Thank you
self-identify as liberal, and i am trans
What you want in that case is lemmy.blahaj.zone not Hexbear/grad or .ml
Lots of trans folks head there because the mods of hexbear are very strict about transphobia, and there was a tiff between the two instances specifically around fetishizing trans folks. So worth checking out both to see if either feels more inviting.
They are not actually left, they are authoritarian communists and will defend Chinas CCP and Putin as well as spread the propaganda/misinfo out of there. And if you dare post anything critical of them, no matter how many good sources you give or how factual it is they’ll write it off as “CIA propaganda”, remove it and ban you under their catch-all “Rule 1: Bigotry”
If you want to see more check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
If you criticize the chinese communist party you will be labled a sinophobe on Hexbear.
“I’m doing my part!”
Hexbear users are generally more vocal with their opinions and call people out for problematic opinions. Because not everyone shares Hexbear users’ opinions it can come across as very aggressive. My instance has been defederated with them for a while so it’s hard to say exactly what it is like now, but that’s the gist.
I had plenty of positive interactions with them too and enjoyed their communities. It’s easier to notice the one really unenjoyable interaction with someone than the dozens of somewhat positive ones though.
It’s a shame that many instancss defederated with Hexbear and vice-versa… definitely makes having alt accounts necessary so users can get the most out of Lemmy
I blocked hexbear after getting in too many stupid arguments with their users. The final straw was an argument where they said “owning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn’t communist enough” and I just gave up and blocked the bunch. Lot less grief in my feed after that.
Nobody on hexbear is sane. One of the worst Lemmy instances. Many other instances already defederated from it and I can honestly just advice you to not interact with them.
If anyone from hexbear insults you, it’s a good thing. That means you’re still human.
I’m new, trying to get a hold of the lingo, is instance like, reference to the server they usually post through? Or like, lemmys equivalent to a sub reddit? What does it mean to defedrate?
reference to the server they usually post through
Roughly, yes. Imagine there isn’t just one reddit, but multiple reddits, all with their own users, sub-reddits and eventually even rules. Now all these multiple reddits can “talk” to each other. That’s why I’m on lemmy.zip and I can see a post someone hast posted on lemm.ee - that is federation. Saved on different servers, but looks like one coherent feed.
Defederation means that an admin of an instance excludes one or more instances from communicating with his. I’m not 100% sure what every implication is, but roughly, the instances can’t communicate with each other, so if lemmy.world defederates from lemmy.zip, for example, we could not have this conversation right now. You also would not see any posts from lemmy.zip and I would not see any from lemmy.world
I see, thank you very much!
Former tankie turned anarchist. Talk to the Tankies. Learn from them, they have points.
Engles is full of shit (“On Authority” is little more than a business owner complaining that people don’t like authority, and using natural laws of the universe to justify its existence by diluting the definition of authority such that any type of power over anything is considered authority. While this is not technically incorrect, it is a gross oversimplification of what authority means) and is the primary basis for how authority is justified on the Auth left.
But when they tell you to read something, go read it. They shitpost hard, don’t eat the onion, don’t feed the trolls, but engage in genuine conversation *recognizing that you will never agree and using it as a learning experience *
edit: spelling error
I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.
Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more.
This right here (I’m stealing it lmao)
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of “The Star Trek Economics” which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future. Not so perfect as to fall into the “Utopia that’s really a Dystopia in disguise” problem, but still a future worth striving for.
All current or past examples of Communism generally involve the sacrifice of personal rights and freedoms to some degree.
ETA: As far as engaging with them goes, I did for a while, multiple times in fact. Once you go beyond their surface level talking points the Authoritarian in them comes out and they will not criticize China/Russia in any shape or form no matter how deserving.
It’s really only been the last few months that I’ve actually been proactive against them because now I see the damage they do to the Lemmy-verse with their propaganda and misinformation.
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of “The Star Trek Economics” which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future.
To boldly go where money has no power over biology 💪
Yay for bringing up Mander :-)
I was on Lemmy when lemmy.ml was the biggest server and I’m glad that despite the biggest server being tankie nominated Lemmy could grow into what it is today.
For awhile I thought that there were stacks of people on lemmy.world constantly complaining about tankies. But now I’m starting to realise that most of the posts are from this one dude, cm0002. Frankly, it’s a little bit weird.
Definitely a hobby of his
Or a job…
I feel like professionals would be better at it.
Troll farm types usually don’t post as much casual content as he does.
Watching him ‘help’ the fediverse grow by constantly trying to divide and ostracise people would be ironic if it wasn’t so obviously dumb
Yeah its pretty pathetic.
It’s a massive astroturf of like 2 ultra liberal dumbasses who read Harry Potter and consider themselves expert on political theory
I hope he’s at least on CIA payroll or something, it would be embarrassing to be THIS dumb without getting money out of it
This whole topic has been the crusade of like two or three people.
The result is mostly just a fourth person being able to post shit like breibart without harassment.
Lemmy is still rather small.
I’m really liking it here!
Yeah… we’re kind of fun.
Welcome!
Glad to be here!!
I hear so much about how awful these instances are, but I never see anything in them.
Hexbear/Grad is difficult to see things from because most instances including yours iirc defeds from them
.ml is less widely defed’d from because they tend to keep things more subtle (possibly in an attempt to prevent a larger defed movement like what happened with Hexbear and Grad) and in the comments rather than overt in your face posts like Hex/grad tend to do and generally just get removed and widely downvotes when they try to post those comments outside the Tankie Triad safe space
.ml Is also more likely to just remove dissenting voices under their catch-all “rule 1”
.ml is run by the Lemmy devs, and Lemmy is such a shitty piece of software that admins often need the devs to be actively involved during things like upgrades to keep everything from breaking. Therefore, they have to let .ml get away with things that would get any other instance defederated.
Nothing’s going to improve until alternatives like PieFed, Sublinks and mbin become ready for prime-time. As long as we keep using the Lemmy software, we’re fucked.
Are there any real communism/anarchism communities?
slrpnk.net looks cool, haven’t tried it yet
Follow the Anarchist Code of Conduct: https://wiki.dbzer0.com/the-anarchist-code-of-conduct/
Or Midwest.social if you don’t want porn in your /all
And you’re from the Midwest. And not a landlord.
The admin can have bad days https://midwest.social/post/22065334
Yep, sounds like a space for actual socialists and not liberals that want healthcare to me.
There’s an instance for the second person and it’s called .world
You want lemmy.ml. They are obviously quite annoying, so many instances have defederated with them.
There’s even some instances with old reddit-like styling/formatting, if you’re into that sort of thing.
I’ll pimp my example: https://old.lemmy.fan/
Woo \o/ Hopefully this time the server I picked won’t suddenly vanish and take all the communities I’d managed to find and subscribe to from me. 😅 Gonna make sure I make regular exports and maybe have a second account on another server just incase.
Imagine dedicating this much of your free time attacking people for caring too much.
Especially when the general feeling seems to be this
FYI for anyone who comes across, this here is an example of a “.ml Tankie Alt” who may also just be a “UniversalMonk” alt account.
This “caring too much” they speak of is an inability to accept any valid and factual criticism of the CCP or Russia.
They also defiantly refuse to believe the Xi/Winnie the Pooh meme started in China, despite well documented evidence.
The tankies often call for “unification of the left” but it is deception, they are not left because they will support authoritarian ideals in lockstep.
ETA:
Not me. Never heard of the guy. I mean, it’s nice that I’m on your mind all the time, but brah, calm down. Not every single person who disagrees with you is me or some “alt account” of mine. lmao
Upvoted. You have enough alts with your actual name
Thank you! I have no reason to come up with random alt names. I’ve always been transparent about who I am when I apply to a new instance. Even an instance I created has my name on it.
I’ve never hid who I am. As someone described me just the other day: “I’m consistent and oddly annoying.” :)
FYI for anyone that comes across, this here is an example of a conservative capitalist supporter who spends hours a day posting about imaginary tankies that fucked his wife or whatever weird shit pops into their head.
Individuals like this use the word tankie in the same way liberals use the word Nazi or conservatives use the word commie or how maga use the word dei or how toddlers use the word icky. It means whatever they want it to mean at the time, in most cases just being anything unpleasant to their delicate sensibilities.
Anyone using the term tankie on a left wing site is deeply unserious and solely exists to sow division and troll.
You literally called Ukrainians Nazis a couple hours ago.
The people with swastikas on their chest are Nazis if anyone is. Joe billy Bob the chicken farmer that has a mutual aid network but voted for Trump because Dems have never paid attention to him is not a Nazi.
It’s disingenuous to pretend there’s not a difference.
It is also disingenuous to label Ukrainians as Nazis, just because a couple of them are. Just like there are in every other country, be it Russia or USA.
Except in Ukraine the Nazis hold power, because the US installed a far-right puppet regime that refuses to hold elections. Now they’re spending millions erecting monuments of famous Nazis.
I’m not saying Zelenskyy is an angel, but the constitution literally forbids elections during war. Pick a better reason to criticize the government, there are plenty real ones.
The Ukrainians call themselves Nazis. They also name their streets after famous Nazis.
When someone covers themselves in Nazi symbols, and calls themself a Nazi, why won’t you believe them?
Half my family is Ukrainians. From Odessa, which is famous for being full of Jews. I lived in Ukraine for 5 years right before the invasion. Literally not a single Nazi in sight or any rhetoric. Wtf are you on about? If somebody convinced you of whatever you said, you’ve been duped.
So you’re claiming all of this is fabricated?
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-us-weapons-azov-a3a555670bedeae2022900621d79aba7
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/03/08/wdtz-m08.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-leader-slams-kyiv-for-naming-streets-after-nazi-collaborators/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html
No, I’m not saying these are fabricated, but I’m saying that you’re cherrypicking examples to support your (Russia’s) narrative. Every time Nazis in Ukraine are discussed, Azov battalion comes up. Guess what, 1 battalion doesn’t make the entire nation Nazis. There are Nazis in all countries. There are even Nazi battalions in Russia, but Russians aren’t Nazis?
The street renaming incident is just a result of incompetent research. They were just pulling any historical names to replace all the numerous Soviet era Russian names. The street I lived on in Kyiv got renamed to one after a Polish Jew. So why would Nazis name streets after Jews?
“there is no censorship in Beijing…”
Still haven’t found wikipedia or other such sites, eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
Censorship in China
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) uses extensive censorship. For instance, the Chinese government has censored topics regarding the Cultural Revolution and CCP Chairman Mao Zedong, the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, human rights in Tibet, persecution of Uyghurs, and Taiwan independence.
The first screenshot is about voting rights, little one.
At least you’re admitting you’re wrong there and you admit China isn’t a evil despotic dictatorship.
Lmfao you think China is an open socialist democracy! God there are some proper nutcases on this site
Individuals like this use the word tankie in the same way liberals use the word Nazi or conservatives use the word commie or how maga use the word dei or how toddlers use the word icky. It means whatever they want it to mean at the time
No. I mean, I disagree, but the weirdest thing is the use of liberal as a pejorative on a “left wing site”.
All my adult life I’ve been disliked by my local chuds, cunts, dickheads, fuckwits, and bastards for being liberal. Now the “lefties” dislike me for it too.
It’s weird; I like all the same stuff, push for the same social change as ever but now “libs” like me are the scum of the earth because . . . *checks notes* . . Ah. Yes because the Likud are genocidal evil bastards. Which. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Yeah I dunno. Somehow that means we should let trump win.
It’s fucked up bullshit. And it used to be mostly from the “Tankie triad”. But even after they got mostly blocked, the more industrious of them come from “regular” instances now.
Liberals were never left wing, equality nor equity can happen under capitalism. The rainbow capitalism liberals advocate for only extends as far as their use to the liberal hierarchy. See: trans and undocumented people getting thrown away by the Harris admin as soon as they no longer saw any bumps in polls for supporting them.
The problem you’re having is you live in a place with such a far right Overton window that the thought of even a tenuous equality amongst the under class is a progressive idea. It’s not. But it’s an easy tool to divide the underclass, and even acceptance of ‘controversial’ humans is used to divide the underclass.
Liberal was a good thing to be in the early 1700s, when it was the only alternative to divine right feudalism; but we’ve evolved since then. We don’t have to settle for capital based feudalism, which is all liberalism amounts to.
Tl;Dr liberal infighting caused you to think liberalism and conservatism is different ideologies, and you’re using the conservative definition of liberal to define yourself and getting mad.
I’m kinda new to the fediverse. What did lemmy.ml do?
their admins (the maintainers of the lemmy codebase) are tankies (authoritarian communists who believe the USSR was justified in quashing Hungarian protests against human rights abuses with violence). they take any criticism of the people’s republic of china’s government as sinophobia and have some weird opinions about the fascist government of the russian federation (effectively their explanation is that moscow achieved communist utopia in 1918 and therefor cannot backslde into a worse form of government despite overwhelming evidence that the potato shaped dickhead who sits atop the throne of skulls in moscow is maybe possibly perhaps a war criminal)
If the Lemmy programmers are freaks, how does that bode well for the future? Seems like Lemmy is already doomed.
OSS gives us the option of forking the code and going a better way, if needed.
I’d recommend visiting it or joining an instance that federates with it at least. The liberals like to make it out to be a communist propaganda machine but most of the content is memes, oss, and general left wing / anti-US stuff. They will ban you on some communities if you bring up tianemen square or uyghurs though, so that sucks, but otherwise most of the content / users on there are decent.
Yeah, I haven’t had issues with them generally speaking myself, if you’re a leftist you’ll find comrades. But also, it’s important to remember that every instance is essentially its own little fiefdom, so you’ll have to follow whatever arbitrary rules they have.
I caught a ban on .world for mentioning Jury Nullification. That was a fun time, from the people who complain about freeze peach constantly.
Luckily they backed off their stance on those conversations.
I wonder if some of that was admins in NL somewhat inexperienced with commonwealth-style legal systems.
ooohhh… so they thought people suggested murdering jurors ? as in jury nullification? that’s bleak
Because the Tiananmen Square and Uyghur claims have all been debunked. Even the intelligence orgs admitted they don’t have any evidence. Why allow the same debunked propaganda to be reposted by bots over and over?
Do you have some evidence you’d like to present?
Tiananmen Square was debunked?
I mean, I was alive when the pics came out. Been aware of the censorship. Had friends from China and friends who worked there tell me about the complete avoidance of the subject.
Oh, and I’m not a bot, though you could be protecting your psyche by saying everyone who pushes back on this is.
It is just as foolish to not admit to the atrocities done by one government as it is for any other.
You can acknowledge that the narrative presented by western media about these events is exaggerated without going full tilt into denial.
Something did happen in Tiananmen Square. People were killed. The government of China does censor discussion of the events.
These are facts, and when you try to deny them it only reveals that you are more concerned with protecting your worldview than with adhering to the truth.
Haha. Lots of mental gymnastics in there. Or just being intentionally obtuse.
Yes, something happened there, and people died. But it wasn’t anything like the western narrative, including lies about who died.
Western media has an incentive to exaggerate, China has an incentive to downplay. Perhaps the truth which lies somewhere in between would be easier to arrive at if China didn’t heavily censor all discussion of the events.
I think about what happened in Tiananmen Square with equal revulsion as I do for, say, the battle at Blair Mountain, and I approach the topics with equal caution in determining the details. You seem to have no such caution with regard to the Chinese state narrative of what occurred in Tiananmen Square.
Also, you can go-to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and check out the pinned posts, Nutomic lead dev, Tankie, and .ml head admin is basically a transphobe on top (receipts in the second pinned post)
They’ll also remove posts and ban you under their favorite catch-all “Rule 1 Bigotry” for anything critical of China/Russia
If you talk Ill of them, even on other instances comms they’ll site-ban you. So basically like how Reddit mods of ol used to ban you for participation in unrelated subs.
You have been banned from r/pyongyang.
They helped elect trump
yes of course, trump won because of a few hundred people on a website no one’s heard of and not, yknow, the sheer racism of the average white person (the only demographic that voted in majority for trump, btw)
be serious
Helping doesn’t mean being the #1 reason
I mean it is true. They did help elect Trump. Before the election there were a ton of .ml accounts doing their best to get progressives to be politically apathetic. They were indistinguishable from right wing saboteurs.
How possible do you think it is that they both independently reached the same level of political disgust with the status quo for different reasons?
It’s possible. But actively pushing the narrative that there is no point in voting on on Lemmy only helped Trump win.
If people pushed the „no point in voting“ narrative in right wing forums it would be be better.
As I said people encouraging left leaning (in the American sense) potential voters to not vote is what right wing saboteurs would do.
Existing in those spaces heavily, I disagree that the push was towards not voting, the heavy criticism I saw was towards that only see political action as voting. Further, acknowledging the reality that interests of the ruling class, or palestinians, is not on a ballet.
It’s possible. But actively pushing the narrative that there is no point in voting on on Lemmy only helped Trump win.
This just seems so far from impactful. The narrow slice of people that exist on lemmy, were in the set of states that actually decide elections, and also are politically influenced by it enough to change their vote, is such a tiny number of people. Do you really find it to be a worthwhile point to attack rather than the failures of democrats to recognize and push back against the decades long project of fascism that has been built by the republicans?
I strongly agree that it was ultra low impact. But in the results where the same. It has the exact same impact as would a right winger saboteur saying the same. The same end goal would be helped. And this case the right wing benefits.
I think a better approach would be for those left wing (in the non American sense) spaces to push voter apathy in right wing spaces.
Then on top encouraging action and organization of the left.
You’re blaming people who shoot their mouths off online for a fascist coup orchestrated by russian and US oligarchs?
Ummmm . . . Yyyyyes.
Yeah, they were bigly into making sure trump won.
How’d they trick the Dems into a bad nominee?
Oh you didn’t like Harris’ . . . what. Appeal? Her . . policy positions? And in the face of all of the insanity and horror you’ll now experience and all the pain you’ll watch people go through, you’re still fussy about it huh?
Is it still confusing? Is it? That’s a shame. It could not be a simpler choice. Hit yourself and the people you love in the head with a brick, or have some okay ice cream. You still wanna complain about the ice cream.
Sure, I’m not a fan of Harris. I wouldn’t support anyone who will arm a genocide.
But this isn’t about my position. This is about years of polling showing that Harris was always unpopular. You claimed people other than the Dems were to blame. So again, how did anyone trick the Dems into running a nominee who couldn’t win?
This is about years of polling showing that Harris was always unpopular.
No. No, it’s not.
This is about letting trump win by not supporting his one probablistic victorious challenger.
that’s all this is about. Anything about Harris is beyond irrelevant. If you want to talk about the DNC today, or whatever party you prefer today, fine. That’s a different conversation. But that’s not what this particular line of criticism is about.
My point is that there was one act everyone needed to do by a certain date to prevent a very preventable horror that will soon engulf the world. One simple thing. One binary choice. And many people here, based on thier comments before the election and even some after, did not do that thing.
They are cretinous fools and useful idiots. They have - despite a chorus of warnings and explanations - opened the door to a generation of chaos.
p.d mentioned, wooo!
