• Westdragon@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The delay is intended by Republicans, in order to cause a crisis that goes to SCOTUS… who seems to be owned and operated by the GOP. I’d say lets compromise… they can hand count and if not done by the cutoff then their votes simply are not admitted. Sucks to the non Republicans in the juristictions but hey, why let these dumbshits screw up the whole election?

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    2 months ago

    I’m voting Democrat and I see nothing wrong with this. Yeah it may take time but at least it’ll be an accurate count. I think every vote should be hand counted.

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      The problem is that the people making this decision are a bunch of conspiracy-mongers who aren’t able to provide money to actually count the ballots. The point isn’t just to make it slow; it’s to create opportunity to conspiracy-monger and choose to not certify the results at all, so that peoples’ votes aren’t counted, and the Republicans can just install whomever they feel like in power.

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        Why does there need to be a rush to have them certified? We don’t have to know the winner on election Day. I’d rather it be correct and accurate than instant. How can you be against accuracy? Edit: it used to take weeks to find out what each state voted.

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          There isn’t a rush to do it; the problem is that their plan is to invent nonexistent problems and refuse to certify at all.

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    They should hand count the ballots.

    Idk what this is about but hand counting can be done on a massive scale and avoids all manner of screwups like Florida in 2000 that gave bush the election.

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      Even if you want that, it’s a really bad idea to set new rules for how to count ballots a few weeks before the election, when you don’t have time to hire people or train them to do it right. This guarantees chaos.

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        2 months ago

        Polls close in a little under two months. We already know how to hand count ballots. Best to start early.

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            That certainly would have been earlier. To be honest I think even if a person doesn’t have my own “hand counting is the best choice” views, planning on doing hand count in an election that was the subject of manipulation allegations two presidential elections in a row and is smart.

            I mean, realistically even if you believe the machine count is fine, you’re most likely going to have to do an auditable hand recount anyway.

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              The normal action with machine counts is to randomly select a subsample and hand count those to validate. It’s just slow, expensive, and error-prone to hand-count really huge numbers of ballots with lots of offices on them. And that’s the whole point of this decision — to make it so that people don’t have a reliable count of votes the next day, allowing the opportunity to toss out the voters decisions entirely.

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                If hand counting is so error prone then why do we hand count during recounts and as you said during spot checks?

                I don’t buy it.

                Perhaps support for hand counting is partly coming from people hoping it will cause chaos. I don’t think it will based on my own limited experience in elections and weather it will or won’t, even the stopped clock of people who want to prevent and slow down the count tells the right time twice a day.

                Why is it such a big deal to know the next day who the winner is? They don’t take office until the next calendar year.

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                  Because you can do it well at small scale at modest expense. It’s expensive to do well and fast for ballots with lots of offices and in large numbers.

                  This decision, unaccompanied by money to hire people, basically guarantees chaos.