• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      2 months ago

      My expectation is that NATO’s days are numbered. Essentially, NATO serves as a protection racket spearheaded by the United States. With China emerging as the main rival for America, while their proxy conflict with Russia falters, Europe is destined to be discarded so that the US can redirect its focus towards Asia. Turkey, sensing an impending shift in global dynamics, is now diversifying its alliances.

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          Oh yeah, I don’t think anybody with a functioning brain thinks Turkey would ever get into the EU. At this point, it’s not even clear what the benefit would be either given that EU is imploding.

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        I don’t think this is true. Turkey has been playing both sides for a long time, and this is just another step in that direction. But NATO is still resilient unfortunately.

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          Turkey absolutely likes to play both sides, but I can’t see how NATO survives without the US being committed to it. Meanwhile, the US has to pick its battles because it can’t be everywhere at once. And China is now a far bigger concern for US than Europe is.

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            NATO is an instrument of US hegemony. I can’t imagine they’d stop committing to it. They know there are too many who think Russia is a threat to them and will just do whatever to keep NATO alive. I don’t think US would want to let go of something so useful to them.

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              At the end of the day the US doesn’t see Russia as a primary threat, and they lack the resources to both fund NATO and threaten China. With the war in Ukraine having been lost, I expect that the US will leave Europe to deal with the fallout and refocus on Asia. If the war achieved its goals of accomplishing a regime change in Russia or even Balkanizing it, then it would be a different story. The US would absolutely invest into NATO to surround China from the west at that point. However, now that Russia has come out stronger, it would just be throwing good money after bad from US perspective.

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          NATO is essentially a gang of Imperialist countries combining strength to maintain their Imperialist status militarily.

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                  That’s the same logic as saying Capitalism is voluntary because workers agree to work for their wages. Such analysis sees the subservience in a vacuum devoid of external pressures or developmental practices.

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                There is literally an entire “argument” under this comment between these two lmao wtf are you on about