• InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    Trump should drop out, he’s too old, has the dementia, cheated on his pregnant wife, is a rapist, a racist, and so far has 34 felonies. Very unfit to lead our country.

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    He played the sax 🎷 on TV to get elected and then had sex in the oval office with that intern. Ahhh those were more innocent times.

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      Remember the outrage! A president who didn’t tell the truth about his sex life right away was unthinkable!

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        It’s pretty funny

        During the deposition, Clinton was asked “Have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1?” The judge ordered that Clinton be given an opportunity to review the agreed definition. Afterwards, based on the definition created by the Independent Counsel’s Office, Clinton answered, “I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.” Clinton later said, “I thought the definition included any activity by [me], where [I] was the actor and came in contact with those parts of the bodies” which had been explicitly listed (and “with an intent to gratify or arouse the sexual desire of any person”). In other words, Clinton denied that he had ever contacted Lewinsky’s “genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks”, and effectively claimed that the agreed-upon definition of “sexual relations” included giving oral sex but excluded receiving oral sex

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          He did not sexually assault Monica Lewinsky. It was a consensual relationship. He was accused of lying about it in a deposition. That was the alleged crime.

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            To be clear about what happened - she did say (maybe about ten years ago, post me- too), that she realizes Clinton took advantage of her. That doesn’t change her opinion overall that it was consensual, but she recognizes the power imbalance played a role in what she did.

            That’s the part being pointed out by the other commenter.

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              She was absolutely taken advantage of. At best, the whole thing is unseemly. But there is a very large gap between “sexually assaulted” and being taken advantage of.

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                That’s the debatable part. Given the absolutely massive power imbalance, can it be consensual?

                From my perspective, I think it’s important to take Ms. Lewinsky’s opinion and consider it to not be sexual assault, she’s had about 30 years of reflection on it and where she landed is consensual.

                But I can understand, given the power imbalance and how that has been used historically to force others into a sexual relationship, how it can be viewed as sexual assault.

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                  I would agree except for the fact that she actively pursued him. He didn’t just pick her out of a crowd. She made it a point to be near him. He should have known better than to go there but she initiated the whole thing.

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                  That’s a hard one to delineate though. Is any sexual contact with the President of the United States consensual? Can the President only get a reach around from Xi Jinping?

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            Lololol whatever you need to tell yourself.

            Most powerful man in America is getting head from a 22 year old in office who had come out afterwards and said she was pressured and it was unwanted but your going to go to bat.

            But grab her by the pussy is just locker room talk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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      You know he’s gonna wake up tomorrow and forget that he dropped out, and we’re gonna have to do this all over again.

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    So if I have my facts in order; felons and the senile are not only allowed but cheered on for our next leader. Sorry America look up from your phone and see with your eyes how our way of life is going to keep getting worse until major change happens. It is not as simple as a battle between two parties. Our way of government has been compromised.

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      It’s tragic that America is so polarized and propagandized with misinformation (myself included), that I think it’s going to have to learn the hard lessons of fascism.

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    Also older than George W. Bush and Obama. And Al Gore. Not famously old Dick Cheney, but it’s close. Dan Quayle, George H. W. Bush’s VP, is younger.