Like you said, some “win the lottery”. I think most people would prefer not to have to deal with the difficulties. You can be autistic and good at something or not autistic and good at the same thing.
You can be autistic and good at something or not autistic and good at the same thing.
Let’s not erase the unique characteristics of autism. People with autism can often achieve a higher level of mastery or understanding than most people in a specific topic, or can do so with much less effort. I’m not saying there aren’t challenges, but there are definitely also benefits for some of us.
I stated quite clearly that you can be good at a thing without the difficulties that autism can present for some people. That does not detract from any benefit autism might bestow.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to paint ASD as some kind of desirable condition.
You’re basically saying that “I won the lottery, so everyone else should be fine playing it too”.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to paint ASD as some kind of desirable condition.
Because it’s not a curse, it’s just a cluster of personality traits. I certainly wouldn’t take a pill that would “cure” my autism if one was available to me. Sure some traits can make it harder to integrate into society, but some of them can also confer benefits which I’m asserting are not achievable without also being neurodivergent.
It sounds to me like what you’re arguing is that ND confers challenges but doesn’t confer any benefits that cannot also be achieved without being neurodivergent. I would disagree. Perhaps I am misunderstanding you. If so, I apologize.
I don’t really think you’re reading what I’m saying. You have an incredibly narrow view of ASD that seems to revolve entirely around your more fortunate outcome. I mean, good for you, I’m glad it’s worked out for you and where you fall on the spectrum has conveyed more benefit than any negatives.
I will counter-argue that your position on ND implies it offers more benefits than challenges. I strongly disagree with this and refer back to the “lottery” comment. You won. There are plenty of losers. Don’t suggest it’s a game worth playing unless you can prove that everyone with ASD is a winner. I sincerely doubt you can.
They are not erasing anything. YOU are assuming autistic people automatically get gifts. Stop it. Stop that shit right now.
Your attitude is EXACTLY what is wrong with the show, and the EXACT thing the main post is making fun of. Stop it. Even if SOME still have wonderful abilities, you are distinctly and exactly doing the wrong thing to say, “butbutbut some of us are smarter than average!”.
Yea. You know who ELSE also has a chance to be smarter than average? LITERALLY EVERYBODY!!
I didn’t say automatically. I said it’s true for some of us. I fully acknowledge that some people with autism get absolutely shafted in terms of the cluster of personality traits and ND symptoms they develop. I’m just saying that the benefits of autism, such as they are, cannot be achieved by an NT brain. Whether or not that is “worth the cost” isn’t for me to say. It depends greatly on rolls of the biological dice.
Yes, any by trying to reply in the negative to everyone supporting the mai post, YOU are still directly attempting to contradict the sentiment while not admitting to it.
Stop it. Stop trying to reinforce stereotypes to protect your own feelings. It’s pitiful. Yes, responding in a, “but it’s kinda tru tho” way IS defending the stereotype.
You seem really angry about a pretty innocuous conversation on the internet. All I was saying is that there’s a bit more nuance here than was being suggested. I’m not saying either side of the argument is entirely wrong. Just sharing my personal experience.
Like you said, some “win the lottery”. I think most people would prefer not to have to deal with the difficulties. You can be autistic and good at something or not autistic and good at the same thing.
Let’s not erase the unique characteristics of autism. People with autism can often achieve a higher level of mastery or understanding than most people in a specific topic, or can do so with much less effort. I’m not saying there aren’t challenges, but there are definitely also benefits for some of us.
I’m not erasing anything.
I stated quite clearly that you can be good at a thing without the difficulties that autism can present for some people. That does not detract from any benefit autism might bestow.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to paint ASD as some kind of desirable condition.
You’re basically saying that “I won the lottery, so everyone else should be fine playing it too”.
Because it’s not a curse, it’s just a cluster of personality traits. I certainly wouldn’t take a pill that would “cure” my autism if one was available to me. Sure some traits can make it harder to integrate into society, but some of them can also confer benefits which I’m asserting are not achievable without also being neurodivergent.
It sounds to me like what you’re arguing is that ND confers challenges but doesn’t confer any benefits that cannot also be achieved without being neurodivergent. I would disagree. Perhaps I am misunderstanding you. If so, I apologize.
I don’t really think you’re reading what I’m saying. You have an incredibly narrow view of ASD that seems to revolve entirely around your more fortunate outcome. I mean, good for you, I’m glad it’s worked out for you and where you fall on the spectrum has conveyed more benefit than any negatives.
I will counter-argue that your position on ND implies it offers more benefits than challenges. I strongly disagree with this and refer back to the “lottery” comment. You won. There are plenty of losers. Don’t suggest it’s a game worth playing unless you can prove that everyone with ASD is a winner. I sincerely doubt you can.
I never claimed otherwise. I never claimed the benefits outweigh the challenges. It is absolutely a case-by-case thing.
But also, I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say, as nobody really has a choice whether or not they “play the game”
They are not erasing anything. YOU are assuming autistic people automatically get gifts. Stop it. Stop that shit right now.
Your attitude is EXACTLY what is wrong with the show, and the EXACT thing the main post is making fun of. Stop it. Even if SOME still have wonderful abilities, you are distinctly and exactly doing the wrong thing to say, “butbutbut some of us are smarter than average!”.
Yea. You know who ELSE also has a chance to be smarter than average? LITERALLY EVERYBODY!!
I didn’t say automatically. I said it’s true for some of us. I fully acknowledge that some people with autism get absolutely shafted in terms of the cluster of personality traits and ND symptoms they develop. I’m just saying that the benefits of autism, such as they are, cannot be achieved by an NT brain. Whether or not that is “worth the cost” isn’t for me to say. It depends greatly on rolls of the biological dice.
Yeah they can. I don’t know how the likeliness compares, but it’s well within the realm of possibility.
Yes, any by trying to reply in the negative to everyone supporting the mai post, YOU are still directly attempting to contradict the sentiment while not admitting to it.
Stop it. Stop trying to reinforce stereotypes to protect your own feelings. It’s pitiful. Yes, responding in a, “but it’s kinda tru tho” way IS defending the stereotype.
You seem really angry about a pretty innocuous conversation on the internet. All I was saying is that there’s a bit more nuance here than was being suggested. I’m not saying either side of the argument is entirely wrong. Just sharing my personal experience.
No, I’m getting angry at you literally and completely failing to understand the entire point made by the post.
That’s sad, bro
Yes, it is sad that people need to feel extra special to the point where they hold on to detrimental stereotypes.