• juliebean@lemm.ee
    221·
    6 months ago

    unfair comparison. both of these guys are far better public speakers than trump.

  • helena@lemmy.eco.br
    18·
    6 months ago

    Honestly crazy how they pretend this is what true democracy looks like and manage to get away with it

  • figaro@lemdro.idEnglish
    225·
    6 months ago

    Funny! But like Palatine isn’t actively trying to end the voting system so am going to vote for him for the sake of the future

    • ArcticAmphibian@lemmus.orgEnglish
      9·
      6 months ago

      Palpatine kinda DID end the voting system (analogue to parliamentary democracy):

      “The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I’ve just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.” -Grand Moff Tarkin

      So, in other words, the two are more alike than is initially obvious.

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
          119·
          6 months ago

          How many elections that are “the most important” until people notice that representative elections don’t work? (Even in non-fptp electoral systems)

          • o_d [he/him]@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            10·
            6 months ago

            The problem with liberal democracies isn’t that representatives are elected, its who those politicians represent. It’s not the working class, except when it is and those politicians get Salvador Allende’d 💀.

          • AVincentInSpace@pawb.socialEnglish
            134·
            6 months ago

            Still, better to vote for the candidate that will ensure that forms of political action besides voting will continue to be legal

          • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
            64·
            6 months ago

            Every election is important, if they weren’t why even hold an election?

            • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
              85·
              6 months ago

              In US politics it’s always “if the dems don’t win, then it’s the end of the free world”.

              • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                121·
                6 months ago

                Remember last time? You guys got pretty close to an actual real life coup d’etat. How many more constitutional crises do you think you can dodge?

                You bet your ass the next VP candidate will be vetted to “do the right thing”.

      • null@slrpnk.net
        103·
        6 months ago

        You’re not going to take any action to make things better during those 4 years? Why not?

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
          52·
          6 months ago

          I wonder how many of the “vote blue no matter who” crowd participate in direct action.

          • null@slrpnk.net
            37·
            6 months ago

            Well, well, well. If it isn’t the exact non-answer I was expecting to get from that question. (Albeit with more spelling mistakes)

            • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
              62·
              6 months ago

              I’m not from the US, smartypants.

              To answer your question: Electoralism is IMHO a waste of time. I’d ratherbe politically active e.g. in a union.

              • null@slrpnk.net
                37·
                6 months ago

                I’m not from the US, smartypants.

                So? You’re snarkily commenting on the actions of a US citizen.

                The fact remains that there’s work to be done by the people and it will either happen under Biden or Trump.

                One of those options is clearly more inhabitable than the other.

                You being from another country and sowing political discord isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

                • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
                  62·
                  6 months ago

                  So? You’re snarkily commenting on the actions of a US citizen.

                  You were asking me what I was about to do in the coming 4 years, probably concerning US politics.

                  The fact remains that there’s work to be done by the people and it will either happen under Biden or Trump.

                  Again: You were adressing me.

                  One of those options is clearly more inhabitable than the other.

                  It’s not about inhability. It’s about a system that’s in constant peril of sliding into fascism isn’t worth defending.

                  You being from another country and sowing political discord isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

                  I’m not trying to do that. This is an international meme community about politics (nowhere it’s specified that it’s exclusively about US politics). If I’m not allowed to show my political beliefs here: where can I show them?

                  Trust me: I’d rather no nothing about the politics of that failed state. But here we are with the world police noticing that it has - like all police - a fascism problem. 🙄

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
        13·
        6 months ago

        Only until you vote in better people. Then it’s a periodic duty to pick the course of your country.

        Like we could do too if we got rid of the bathroom fixation and all the anti-science pro-oil blowhards and hillbillies.

    • 087008001234@lemmy.ml
      6·
      6 months ago

      yeah american politics is so deeply complex and has so much nuance its really hard for anyone outside to know w- oh. actually no